[AR] Re: Relativity costs

  • From: Peter Fairbrother <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:46:46 +0000

Where the production volume is high, as in store-bought items, yes, 3D printed plastic parts are more expensive than moulded ones. The break-even comes at about 100 to 10,000 parts, depending, but an aluminium mould can often be economically used for a few hundred to a few thousand parts.

There are quite a few low-volume plastic items which are 3D printed though, like specialised tooling etc.

For rockets? Can't see 3D-printed tanks ever being more economic than sheet fabrication, but for interstages, fuel lines, engine parts, why not.

Any "mass" production of orbital rockets is not going to be more than 1,000 in the near/bankable/forseeable future, and most likely less than 100 or 10 or even 3.

Peter Fairbrother


Oh, on parallel printing: I use FDM printers with 6 hot ends in ditto mode (all 6 parts are the same) for plastic parts.

For 3D tanks, I have a vision of about 100 MIG welders in a circle all working at once. I guess the tank rotates rather than the welders. The weldment won't have time to cool a lot, but that would probably be a good thing depending on metallurgy.




On 14/03/2023 12:00, John HALPENNY (j.halpenny) wrote:

3D printing may not be the solution to mass produced rockets.  Note that 
printing of plastics is a mature technology and there are printers everywhere, 
but nothing I see in the store is printed. It’s just too expensive.

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On Mar 14, 2023, at 2:22 AM, George Herbert <george.herbert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A lot of people can build a bridge that doesn’t fall down.  An engineer should 
do it efficiently and understanding margins and lifetime.


-george


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On Mar 13, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Derek Lyons <fairwater@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 7:18 PM BrianK ABQ <cielobenazul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You know, for a bunch of rocket geeks; you can hold a pretty informative chat 
on high finance. I'm enjoying it.

Engineering is as much counting beans as sliding rules.  Always has been.






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