[AR] Re: Experience with spaceangelsnetwork.com

  • From: "Robert C Steinke" <rsteinke@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 16:19:33 -0700

A big part of it is that there aren't many good business opportunities in new space yet.


It's not that there are all of these fat juicy plums ripe for the picking, but new space entrepreneurs can't figure out how to write a business plan. It's that there really aren't many markets that would meet a venture capitalists definition of a good opportunity.

And a big part of that is market risk. We have no idea how much people would buy because it's never been sold before (at least at hoped for price points) and just the uncertainty is a big strike against any business plan.

Bob


On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 17:34:08 -0500
 Bill Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The amount of funding is limited by the quality of the investments, not by the amount of venture capital.

The "issue" is that space startups compete against all other opportunities in the economy. The vast majority of those are less risky and offer far higher and more certain returns.

Bill

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On Feb 4, 2014, at 17:23, "Monroe L. King Jr." <monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I understand that. There is not nearly enough funding going on is
really what I'm saying. Compared to the amount of New Space hype going
on.

Sure SpaceX and XCOR can get funding. Thanks for the others though for
sure I'm interested in them. I'm also just pointing out how high that
hurdle is. I think it would help others much to get a better idea of
just that.

Another MAJOR falling is market data for new space start up's. I
imagine that will change as things progress over the next 5 years.

Monroe

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [AR] Re: Experience with spaceangelsnetwork.com
From: Jonathan Goff <jongoff@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, February 04, 2014 3:08 pm
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


Monroe,

As Bill pointed out, there have been angel and VC investments in credible
startups with solid business plans. That's a high hurdle to reach, but not
unattainable. Some companies I personally know of that have closed
investment rounds include:

PlanetLabs
SkyBox Imaging
Dauria Aerospace
NanoRacks LLC
XCOR Aerospace
SpaceX

Getting serious funding for an aerospace startup is hard, but not
impossible, if you have a believable business model, a good team, etc.

~Jon



On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Monroe L. King Jr. <
monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

To Clarify: The only real funding I've seen in the US has been NASA
SBIR's or DARPA funding projects. If there are ANY other funding sources
actually working I'd like to know about it. I'm not talking about once
in a blue moon funding here.

Monroe

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [AR] Re: Experience with spaceangelsnetwork.com
From: Lee Valentine <leesvalentine@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, February 04, 2014 1:48 pm
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


Space Angels has had nothing to do with XCOR's funding.

Lee Valentine, member Board of Directors, XCOR Aerospace


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Neil Jaschinski <neil.jaschinski@xxxxxx
wrote:

Hi Jon,

thank you for your information.
I know the way business angel works from some websites. But this is all
theoretical stuff.
Investors in Europe and specially in Germany are very conservative. If
you came up with some new space ideas mostly you will not be taken
serious. On the other hand, what we read about new space in the USA and
the way thinks are funded, it sounds like paradise compared to Germany.
So I was wondering if it is in real as nice as it sounds.
You wrote that your business plan wasn't ready. What was the reaction
on
this plan? Did you get this idea funded at the end with a finished
plan?
We also hav



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