On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 09:23 -0700, Hal V. Engel wrote: > On Saturday 11 April 2009 09:02:16 am Leonard Evens wrote: > > I got my new Samsung XL20. It comes with a Huey, and the cradle even > > says XL20 on it. I thought I would see what happens if I use it for > > calibration. > > > > But the information about how to use it seems minimal. The user manual > > for the monitor tells me the functions of various parts of the device. > > And it tells me various things about the cradle, including > > > > 1. The cradle allows the calibrater to stand at a similar angle to the > > monitor. > > 2. There are grooves in the circumference and at the bottom of the > > cradle, which you can use to arrange the USB cable neatly. When not > > used, you can also place the USB port here. > > > > So what is the cradle for? > > The X-Rite software supports using the Huey to make periodic changes to the > calibration and/or CM setup as the lighting conditions change. So this is > only useful on Windows and OS/X machines if you use the X-Rite supplied > software. Aha! So that is the point of the angle. The only problem is that the steepest angle involved is well less than 90 degrees. I don't think I've ever used a monitor tilted back that far. Currently I am keeping my monitor plumb. I guess it doesn't really matter since I am unlikely to use that feature. > > > As far as I can see, in use I would have to > > hold the Huey against the monitor or hang it over the top, but item (1) > > above suggests that the cradle might be used somehow. > > > > There is more information in the documentation for Natural Color Expert, > > which seems to say I am just supposed to hold the Huey on the monitor. > > > > I probably didn't look too carefully, but I couldn't find any > > information in the Argyll documentation about these matters. > > > > When I connect the Huey t o a USB port, and run dispcal, I get > > > > dispcal: Error - Configuring USB port 'usb:/bus0/dev0 (GretagMacbeth > > Huey)' to 1 failed with -1 (could not set config 1: Operation not > > permitted) > > > > This is presumably a simple permissions problem, and I can probably > > figure out quickly how to solve it, but any hints to save me time would > > be appreciated. I couldn't find the place in the documentation > > discussing how to set things up under Linux to deal with such problems. > > udev is your friend here. Look it up in the Argyll docs. I still can't find it there---being stupid again. I don't know why, but I often find it difficult to find things I've used before in the ARgyll documentation. But, in any case, I did remember udev. I edited my /etc/udev/rules/10-Argyll.rules file and added an entry for the Huey. (I looked in /proc/bus/usb/devices to find the product number of the Huey, Had I found the Argylll documentation, I could have found the PID there.) > > > > > Finally, the monitor has two USB ports, and a place to connect to a USB > > port on the computer. The Samsung instructions say I should plug the > > Huey into a monitor USB port, but doesn't at the same time say that the > > connection to the computer has to be in place. Is there some way the > > Huey is supposed to be running directly from the monitor? > > No there needs to be a USB connection to the computer either directly to a > computer USB port or through a USB HUB like the one on the monitor to one of > the computer USB ports. > > > > > I will search the archives to see if I can find some of this > > information. Also running the vendor software under Windows will > > probably clarify some things, but perhaps some kind souls will help me > > save some time about how the HUey is supposed to be used, whether > > specific to the XL20 or not.. > > Also the Huey can be affected by bright lights during measurements since it > does not do as good of a job of blocking off ambient light as other meters. > So be sure to keep any direct light off of the screen during this process and > if possible use it in a dark room. My setup is pretty good that way, and the hood helps some. > > Hal