List: I was very heartened this evening when I picked up my mail and found new messages. I became interested in APT because it seemed a logical and well organized way to express part geometry. That part of I deal well with. Actual milling of the part is a different story but I'm learning. It is nice to have a couple of compatriots in the NW but with the net distance really doesn't make much difference. I asked Stuart why he uses APT (NCL) and he said because I can do anything with it and it is reliable; which I interpret to mean predictable. My hope is that this group will get the VAX code running and put together enough documentation so both hobbyists and commercial shops can use it for easy and difficult projects. Except for this recent foray into apt4ssx8 I've not done any FORTRAN for many years. That does not mean I've not been exposed to languages, eg. FOCAL(DEC), FORTRAN(360/390), COBOL(360/390), RT-11(DEC), FORTRAN(DEC), and finally C on pc's. Background: I'm a retired chemist and have been retired for 19+ years. My degree is in Microbiology but I found chemistry more interesting and it paid better. My experience is a bit varied. Industrial X-ray on the missile sites, both Atlas and Titan_I. A couple of years doing plague survey (drafted in the Berlin wall panic) and sent to Dugway Proving Ground. A couple of years doing C14 dating of archaeological objects and deep well water and finally many years as a chemist doing consumer protection in feed and fertilizer and trying to convince very conservative supervisors to invest in technology (computers) to make the laboratory tests less expensive and more reliable including a lab information system where C programs coupled the instruments and analytical balance to Informix as a database. None of that really leads to machining except for the computer experience. I got into emc when is was still difficult to get it running. Patch the kernel which sometime worked and sometimes didn't; then build the system. I was Jon's first sale of a ppmc. I had the first Motenc card which I couldn't make work. So I'm not all that good, just experimental. BDI's helped and it just got better from there. Now that I've got all of you completely bored, I'll stop. ;-) Dave