This message was posted by HERB on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/4/915.html#000002 OTTO does not carry a realistic camo cap. Their camo designs are almost cartoonish in my opinion. I use Outdoor Cap for my foreign made and Daystone for the US made. Licensed camo designs and fair prices. As a side note, OTTO has no problem selling to the end user so they are in essence your competition. I try not to use them at all. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================