Lots of myth busting to handle...what a can of worms. American Apparel...good clothing if you like young shapely girls in tight stuff...and evidently so does the CEO...busted! Prime time teevee showed the world last week. American made goods....hold your horses...very very few companies are really producing MADE WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES goods. Yet they ALL have a 'made in the USA' tag. Hanes, Jerzees, all of them. How and why? Well, for everyone that fell asleep in geography and history class in school...Puerto Rico is NOT the only 'island' country still OWNED by the United States in some form or another...we (the USA) still own many 'islands' and 'territorys' across the world. Since there was a big stigma attached to 'going mexican' with your production factory...Hans, Fruit of the Loom, Jerzees...all shut down their USA 'mainland' plants and moved them to these 'territories'....at wages of dollars per week...and STILL legally able to say 'made in the USA'..... Surprise! You are buying sweatshop labor made garments whether you believe it or not! If you buy teeshirts BY THE FULL FACTORY CASE like I have...read the labels! I had cases of shirts come in once, all white teeshirts...all adult sizes, all by the full case for a big job. Opened them up...EVERY 'size' of teeshirt was made in a different factory in a different 'location' so NOT ONE of the shirt sizes matched the other for WHITE! And quality was different, material was different, even relation of neck size to shirt size changed! And these were JERZEE brand! With some investigation work, and talking with sales reps , etc. I learned what I just told you! Using any silk material or silk thread? Those caterpillars don't live in America.... and how's your Amaya sewing with your Organ needles. Like the way they work? Nice, huh? Made in Japan.... and the computer running your design shop and amaya program....all american made? You sure? And the monitor on top of it...I have probably 12 monitors kicking around here...american 'companies', yes, but not one says 'made in the usa'... WE don't want to pollute our water and land with the chemicals used to make them...can't even throw old computers and monitors in the dumpster-get fined for that! I have helped out at a local computer 'recycling' center...they strip down computers and monitors by the SKID load...and it ALL gets shipped overseas...because those countries have no laws about pollution like we do. As for digitizing- american company or overseas....$10 versus $3....well, chances are the 'overseas' people are faster, more efficient, more educated than the majority of US graduates...and cost of living is a fraction of what it is over here. So they CAN do it cheaper and faster. Why are they doing it cheaper? Competition...10 years ago THEY were getting top price-because no one over HERE was doing it. And unless you happen to talk to the actual person that is doing the digitizing, or runs the business HERE and you know them...you may very well STILL be getting 'overseas' labor. No way for US to find out... Next time you call your electric company after hours...or your insurance claims department, OR EVEN ORDER AT A MACDONALDS DRIVEUP WINDOW....chances are, the person on the other end of the speaker doesn't speak english at home! Because most of the larger businesses, including Macdonalds...have found out with satellite phone service and overseas low wages and higher productivity...it is cheaper to contract it out instead of hiring local people to try and do the same job. Like many of you, I do try and support local businesses whenever and wherever I can-even to avoiding chain food restaurants in favor of 'Sally's Home Cooking and Bakery shop' when we go traveling. But you can't always do that...and when the competition is offering embroidered hats with 10,000 stitches and free digitizing for $2.99 ($1.75 my cost) then what can I do? Pick up the catalog, call the USA office of the across the world manufacturer, try to explain in simple english to someone that speaks who knows what....and place the order for my client because I can't get anything USA made for less than $6.99. Very hard to convince the guy that buying american is good for him! Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================