This message was posted by Rod or Sharon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/703.html#000008 Bill, BAD.....Watch Herbs video again. These hoops must be used "exactly" as he demonstrates....no deviation....if you follow his lead, then the teeth "will" bite and hold and the cap will stay on the frame as long as the design doesn't get too tall for the particular style of cap being sewn. Rod Springer =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================