This message was posted by Laurie on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/703.html#000013 Sorry for your troubles, but glad to see that we are not the only ones who are experiencing trouble with teh XT hoop... it pulls off most the time and I have constant thread breaks when I actually do get teh hat to stay in place! The teeth in the middle of the band (at teh bill) DO NOT meet and therefiore can not hold the hat firmly enough to hold it in place NO MATTER how tight it is or how well teh sides are holding!!! We order an OLD version, with teh TWO bands and NO bill clip and are hoping that it may work better... I am so frustrated with doing caps I want to quit my job!! Laurie =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================