This message was posted by gcannon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1428.html#000001 I just use the default with the stitch lenght at 40-45 points, and a density of about 3.8; however this depends on whether I'm putting black thread on a black vest (4.0) or white thread on a black vest (3.2 or lower). It all depends on the color of the leather not showing through. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================