This message was posted by Greenwing on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1381.html#000002 I have used Ultra Heat and Bond with success. It is a rubber and has a low melt point and provided the water proofing I needed when stitching rain coats and Umbrella, It is very thick and stands up well. and did not make them stiff. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================