This message was posted by THREADS on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/8/69.html#000002 Using "Otto Caps" 5 panel hats. I managed to sew out a few successfully. But this problem is a stickler! Obviously a number of you out there are OK with the WACF on the XT. So it is either my hooping technique or I have some bum cap frames! We will just keep at until we conquer it! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================