This message was posted by gcannon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1590.html#000002 I have been using Ver. 10 for some time now, which is a lot more "tricked-out" when it comes to adjusments in the lock-trim area of DS. That being said auto-trims are determined by how far (defined in points by the software) the next elements start point is. As far as what an element is- it is a seperate piece in the tree on the right-hand side of the screen in DS. You can make each letter of a word or phrase a seperate element by clicking apply and ok after each letter. For the next letter open the text dialogue box again, type the letter, click apply and then ok- you get the idea. As far as the auto-trims, I think they happen automatically at 64 points is ver 9, but are completely adjustable in ver 10. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================