This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/117.html#000001 I have no doubt it will be a high stitch count-satin border/line takes up a lot! They aren't going to get it done cheap...maybe that's why they are supplying the twill-thinking you can sew it down for $2 or something...check with Stahls and compare pricing and I think you might also find a stitch count...or someone here will jump in. I've only done large area applique with stitch saver, but the border alone around a 10" limo outline ate up many thousand stitches! Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================