I am attempting to do stand alone lace.. I have had the points set at 1 ...2...3.... I am using four sheets of wash away. (I tried 2 sheets at first) .nothing else. My thread bunches and it tears the wash away.. can any one help me out? thanks Margaret Smith http://www.auriesville-embroidery.com We proudly feature customized embroidery for you, your pets, your home, and your business. Gifts that bring Joy ~~ From our home to yours Join me for Morning prayer ~ bible study: http://faithingodslove.com/