Thanks, Roland. We don't have an option regarding the size and type of the custom label...they're already pre-done and are much wider than the vertical tags sewn in by most of our polo manufacturers. We'll have to cut the original brand labels off (by customer request), then apply the new labels. I've discussed private-labeling before with manufacturers, but the minimum quantity requirements are considerably higher than we'll be working with in this case. Also, I'm fairly certain that we'll be stuck doing the work ourselves in-house, as I don't believe we'll have enough quantity to justify out-sourcing this. Regards, - Jim _____ From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 5:31 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Opinions for adding custom labels to Polo's Any 'private label' goods I 've seen are done several ways-one is an 'iron on adhesive' label that goes over the 'stock' label-seen that coming from the factorys by mistake...and it peels off. Sewn labels-seen them mostly sewn top only over the 'stock label' and then the stock label is cut out from under it-when you look close you can see the edge of the original label. This way there is only one 'line' of thread on the collar of the shirt, and if the collar is 'down' like normal it hides it. Folded end labels-seen some of them, and you do end up with a double vertical line of stitching from the back. If you are almost over the hill like me, you may remember going to school in 'dress shirts' with a 'fairy loop' just under the neck collar-this hid that type of label but no one ever knew what the loop was for! I wouldn't bother try it with an embroidery machine-see if you have a local 'seamstress' that will do it as piece work-but I'll bet she charges a couple $$ apiece.... Most of the commercial shirt suppliers used to offer 'private label' sewing but for quantity only-not small amounts. Ask your supplier about it, and also check the ads in the back of the 'textile imprint' magazines-from the garment industry. Used to see ads in there all the time for 'private label on brand name goods' all the time but I don't get the mags anymore. If the customer thinks you will do it for free...good luck convincing him otherwise! I wouldn't-probably take a couple minutes if not 10-15 per shirt...not very profitable. But maybe if you catch a late night cable tv ad for that handy dandy pocket battery operated traveling 'sewing machine' you can do it cheap! Good luck... Roland From: "Laughing Palm Inc." <sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Organization: Laughing Palm, Inc. Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:03:23 -0400 To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [amayausers] Opinions for adding custom labels to Polo's OK, folks...I know some of you have done this before, so I'd value your opinion as to the best way to go about this... I have a client that wishes to have his own custom shirt label applied to the collar of stock polo's he orders from us (like Anvil, Gildan, etc) and wishes to re-sell to HIS clients. These are polo's that we will embroider with his left-chest logo, but my question is specific to the application of his custom label. These labels are already pre-made, and they are horizontally rectangular in shape - like most high quality labels. They have what I call "flaps" on either end (left and right) that fold back behind the label that are designed to be used to stitch them onto the shirt. These flaps are just a part of the same material as the label, just folded back with permanent creases behind the label...that way it hides the part that is stitched onto the shirt (I hope I described this adequately!). OK, now to my questions... 1.) What would you expect to charge someone to apply these to the shirts (over and above the embroidery charges)? My guess is that this will be a fairly low volume business - probably just a few at a time (although I hope I'm wrong!). Or should I out-source this to a company that specializes in doing this? (Not sure this would be practical, though). 2.) What process would you use to stitch them onto the shirt? Because of the awkwardness of the label flaps, I'm not sure if using our sewing machine is really the right choice. I do want to make sure the labels lay flat and not bowed at the collar. 3.) If I stitch them manually, do I stitch them only part way into the shirt material? I don't like the idea of stitching all the way through the shirt collar/back because the thread would show in the back, but if I had to, I'd end up having to match the thread to the shirt color. Any thoughts? 4.) Since the label is taller than the collar seam, should I stitch the top of the label ABOVE the collar seam and let the bottom of the label be even with the bottom of the collar seam, or not? I guess the other alternative is to stitch the top of the label even with the top of the collar seam and the bottom of the label would end up stitched to the back of the shirt below the seam...hmmm. Again, any thoughts? Your help is appreciated! - Jim