This message was posted by Ballyhoo on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/615.html#000003 I (usually) have outstanding results with metallic thread by doing the following (assuming the columns are wide enough) 1. 80/12 sharp needle (bigger might be better but this is the biggest I have) 2. Density 6 to 8 3. Primary underlay: Double zigzag 50%, density 24 4. Secondary underlay: Double zigzag 75%, density 12 5. No short stitches (<15 pts) The two double zigzag underlays are staggered to keep the thread from going through existing metallic thread and it raises the final layer giving extra sparkle. David Ballyhoo! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================