The other part of the equation is: What type of metallic thread; and How old is it? I have been known to go up to a size 14 for metallic. I can't remember if I was ever able to find any metallic thread needles, which have a larger eye. ALSO, try loosening your tension a wee bit. Metallic thread is VERY tempermental. If it's shredding, tension is too lose. If it's snapping clean, tension is too tight. (tension is also known as thread feed/material feed, etc) =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================