This message was posted by Shuffletown Embroidery on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1574.html#000008 A tool I have used to gauge the arc of the cap opening is a template I made using Corel Draw. Just draw a bunch of concentric circles with different radii. Start with 2" and go up in 1/2" increments. Print this out and you will have something to physically measure your hat back against. Then use that radius to create the lettering. Hmmm, this might be clear as mud. I would have to dig, but I could possibly find the file if you would like to have a copy. Mary =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================