This message was posted by gcannon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1574.html#000005 I too use the 12 cm hoop. I just hoop the back half of the cap- all I am doing is putting lettering around the hole. The top (or bottom) of the circle part of the hoop it right up against the button at the top of the cap. This leaves plenty of room to do the lettering around the hole. Then I print out what I'm going to put on the cap at actual size withe the origin then use the laser to line it up perfectly. One layer of 3.5 oz tearaway and you are good to go (I slip it in after I get the cap on the machine. Remember the way I do it, you have to run the design upside-down. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================