I don't know if this will help....but today we ran off an initial (2 1/2" script) on the corner of a pure white tablecloth with some pale pattern going through it-and kind of hemmed like an old blanket...I'd almost have guessed a damask or something? Really nice material, expensive looking...and all white of course...so we draped a large piece of material I had over the whole table and area around the amaya. The cloth was folded into about 18" fold-in a paper bag and the customer had pulled it out and showed me where to embroider the intial at an angle in the corner. So I figured...easy job-just use the speed frame, keep the cloth covered, no problems getting it dirty. Was going to use tear away, but then figured this was really nice feeling cloth, I'd try something I'd heard about for silk and other fine fabrics...double layer of solvy only behind it with the auto tension turned on. Well, we ran it off...color she picked for the thread was just barely seen-a good light contrast. (she wasn't around-just Sue and I ) and it looked great. I pulled the 'folds' off the table to flip the corner back to peel off the solvy... and inside on the other corner was a silk flower pinned to the edge of the cloth with a tag from a very upscale antique store... WE HAD JUST EMBROIDERED ON A 101 YEAR OLD PERFECT CONDITION TABLECOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-O ohmygawd!!!!!!! If we had screwed that up.... :-O Next time we will ALWAYS find out what it is! But boy, for once everything worked, it came out great, and using solvy-it looked like it was hand embroidered years ago. She loved it! If I had known it was that old-I would either not have done it-or charged a lot more than $10!!!!!! But I'd say try the silk with just solvy....should work fine! Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================