I took the question to be sewing ON foam hats-not sewing the foam underlayment....so maybe we can get clarification? Roland > From: "Laughing Palm Inc." <sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Organization: Laughing Palm, Inc. > Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:31:29 -0400 > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: 3d foam hats? > > Roland, I believe you may have misunderstood the question regarding "3D foam > hats". I believe the question was how to stitch 3-D puffy foam designs on > regular caps...as opposed to stitching on caps made out of foam. There's a > big difference there. I agree that stitching on foam caps is out of the > question...almost no one I know likes to do it. If I have a customer that > wants stitched foam caps, I have a cap manufacturer make them for me! > > At least I *think* this is what the topic is about.... :-) > > Cheers, > > - Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:01 AM > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [amayausers] Re: 3d foam hats? > > I was told when we got the Amaya and went to training that sewing on foam > hats was a no-no...and figured-what the heck, lets' try it! Can't be much > different than sewing foam under a design! > Here's what happens-because there is no structure and its about 1/8" > thick-the threads will make that foam pucker up so much it looks like shrink > wrap under a blow dryer! I finally got a fairly decent image but I think the > 'material density' was around 20 or so-you have to do everything to let the > thread stay loose so it doesn't try to tighten up and pull the foam > together. Next up-we'll try and see how much cardboard would work to stiffen > it-but then you have lost the 'feel' of a foam hat-by creating a structure > in the front panel. I'm sitting on almost a thousand foam hats I wanted to > use up-most suppliers have dropped them since everyone switched to > embroidery and not decaling-but the price on canvas hats compared to foam is > so close now it doens't make $$ sense to waste time on foam anymore... > If you want 'cheap' hats-Ottocap has ongoing 'auctions' of case lots of > assorted hats-I bought over $700 (5 cases) and paid an average of $1.09 or > so for them-and got plenty of hats for the 'cheap sale' for low budget > clients. > Roland > > > >