This message was posted by GameDayDesigns on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/842.html#000004 Thanks Steve. I have not seen the foam with adhesive back so I will definitely have to look at that. Some of that hats I am seeing-the puff part is as hard as a rock and certainly higher than 4mm so I will still wonder what that 'hardness' is on those. Thanks for your info - the actifeed setting was a huge help! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================