This message was posted by Juli in Kona on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/842.html#000005 I have seen these really high and really firm 3D hat designs. If I see another one here at home, I am going to buy it and take it apart. I agree that it is not the foam we use. The sides are too squared off - our foam gets rounded. So, I think that the foam they use is much firmer and much thicker (maybe 2 layers) than our regular puff foam. Juli in Kona =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================