Thank you Al. I will publish a .pdf file with the lists of investors and which
pools they are in that we used to send the initial letters.
Rob n Eva
Sent from Rob's iPad Pro
On Aug 17, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Al Elkins (Redacted sender "doylejean" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Good morning Julia and investors,
I have been in contact with the law firms Esler Stephens and Larkins
Vacura Kaysar. These two firms
co-counsel with each other and offer the most successful securities
litigation on the West Coast. They are
in the process of investigating the viability of the claims related to the
American Equities EAGLES collapse.
They will be conferring with Clyde Hamstreet and Gary Grenley next week.
These law firms experience and expertise in securities fraud leads them
in the direction that American Equities
co-mingled funds and/or have connections tying them together outside of the
"pools". They are focused on parties
and entities that may have helped and enabled American Equities pull off this
ponzi scheme.
At the July 25th meeting, Mr. Roy Thompson stressed the importance of a
large law firm to handle our situation; Larkins
Vacura Kaysar fits that criteria. Mr. Thompson also stressed the fact of
joining together to fund this lawsuit; I suggest 1%
of your loss be contributed to this fund.
A letter to ALL investors has never materialized. It is the utmost
urgency to reach out to everybody that has a monetary
investment so they are aware what is happening. A request for their phone
number and e-mail address will be asked.
If Larkins Vacura Kaysar accepts our case, they will be able to pursue
criminal charges and attempt to recoup our investments
in the pool as well as outside the pools.
I will let you know ASAP as soon as they make the decision!!
HANG IN THERE!!
Al Elkins
-----Original Message-----
From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc digest users <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 10:08 pm
Subject: aem-vanc Digest V1 #49
aem-vanc Digest Fri, 16 Aug 2019 Volume: 01 Issue: 049
In This Issue:
[aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund
[aem-vanc] =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[aem-vanc]_Litigation_Fund=E2=80=94
[aem-vanc] Communications with Miller Nash
[aem-vanc] Re: Communications with Miller Nash
[aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end
[aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end
[aem-vanc] Re: When will another investor meeting occur?
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Litigation
[aem-vanc] Re: Litigation =?utf-8?Q?Fund=E2=80=94NOW=21?=
[aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:51:28 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund
It’s a big risk. I would feel more inclined if people had thought that Gary
Grenley did well in court, but I got the impression that was not the case.
If he couldn’t, for whatever reason, litigate us out of this phony rigged
receivership, what are the chances for anything else?
I’m just being practical here. It’s litigation we’re talking about, and
the prospect has not been made hopeful thus far.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this group
really wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend against
this wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence firing
as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily borne from
Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in Roy
Thompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my $5000,
and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20 people. We
need to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a decent start
and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of it as a poker
game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in order to win it?
I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have a good hand if we
get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's been stolen from
us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game, which hover around
0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as our own odds wax and
wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach. This has all
been offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we need to act on
it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send money. That
means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely, Mike
Peterson
Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
------------------------------
Subject: [aem-vanc] =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[aem-vanc]_Litigation_Fund=E2=80=94NOW!?=
From: Robert Johnson <rdj11256@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:39:28 -0700
Mike,
Thank you for your vote of confidence. We also feel that few people want to
or are afraid to get involved monetarily. However, we are still in it to win
it. Below is the address and directions for sending a check to Roy
Thompson’s firm. No money will be spent until a direction is determined,
and that direction will only be determined by the contributors. At the
Thompson meeting in Tigard, most people agreed to $5000. We also agree that
5-10% of what is owed is an acceptable amount to contribute.
If you are ready to fight, it is time to get your contribution in to the
fund. No more discussion, no more dilly dallying, just write the check. It is
now or never.
Thompson Bogran PC
5 Centerpointe Dr., Suite 400A
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
Please note that my firm is creating a separate Client Trust Account
specifically related to this potential legal action. Any retainer checks
should be made out to the following Client Trust Account:
“Client Trust Account for Thompson Bográn P.C.�
Sent from Rob's iPad Pro
On Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson <mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this group
really wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend against
this wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence firing
as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily borne from
Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in Roy
Thompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my $5000,
and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20
people. We need to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a
decent start and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of
it as a poker game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in
order to win it? I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have
a good hand if we get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's
been stolen from us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game,
which hover around 0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as
our own odds wax and wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach. This
has all been offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we need to
act on it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send money.
That means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely, Mike
Peterson
Sent from Outlook
------------------------------
From: Michael Banks <americanequitiesinvestors@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:40:07 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Communications with Miller Nash
Dear Investors
I have attached a copy of my recent correspondence with Sanford Landress of
Miller Nash for your review.
Sincerely,
Roy B. Thompson/js
dictated but not read
------------------------------
From: "bfranke" <bfranke@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Communications with Miller Nash
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:53:19 -0500
We appreciate the support from your law firm.
Belinda
From: aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Michael Banks
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 1:40 PM
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Communications with Miller Nash
Dear Investors
I have attached a copy of my recent correspondence with Sanford Landress of
Miller Nash for your review.
Sincerely,
Roy B. Thompson/js
dictated but not read
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:02:01 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be relieved
of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't hear
back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from Pensco or
elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: "Neil & Marilyn" <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:25:58 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
I had been in contact with Pensco and finally got their attention when I
raised a little hell and they have suspended my fees. :-) Nuts! I had the
name and phone number of person to talk with. Call Pensco at: 800-962-4238
and ask for Mary Poe(?).
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:02 PM Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't hear
back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from Pensco
or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:28:48 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Aw thanks Neil!!
I got nasty in my emails to the receiver and to them. It’s just maddening
that people continue to bleed ya dry after Ross gets done.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Neil & Marilyn wrote:
I had been in contact with Pensco and finally got their attention when I
raised a little hell and they have suspended my fees. :-) Nuts! I had the
name and phone number of person to talk with. Call Pensco at: 800-962-4238
and ask for Mary Poe(?).
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:02 PM Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
__
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't hear
back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from Pensco
or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:20:41 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receiv
That was the original but cancelled court date.
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 6, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Judy Johnston <glen.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
What meeting in 8-16-19? Investors? Haven’t seen anything about that .
Please let me know about it. Thank you, Judy Johnston
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Ed Wilson <ej.wilson62@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Roy,
Personally I think this is a great idea at first glance. I would like to
take a harder look at this option and hear the opinions of others who are
interested. Every day that goes by with the receivership in place is
costing each investor dearly.
Is there another meeting being planned to inform and discuss the
viability of this plan.
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks,
Ed Wilson
503-572-1324
On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:31 PM, treytennyson3 <treytennyson3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No it does not. The receivership acts to suspend legal actions against
the persons and entities that are named as parties only. Ross Miles,
American Equities and American Eagle Mortgage Management are not parties
and can be sued now. That is what Gary Grenley is doing on behalf of the
Nichols, his clients.
Trey Tennyson
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Pat Witt <pat.witt@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/6/19 5:19 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receivership
We have a question....
Does the Receivership have to end before a lawsuit can be brought against
Miles by the or any investor??
Thank you,
Pat Witt and Bob Kalmbach
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mr Thompson,
Very creative thinking, I like it.
However, 10 to 25 cents on the dollar on a bunch of assets whose value
is low to unknown is not going to entice the receiver (much less
his/Ross’ counsel) away from a million dollars in billings. I think at
this rate, between them, they will bill a half million by year end,
easily, and will lengthen the engagement by any means necessary.
However, I am in favor of anything that dissolves the receivership. I
think at this point our only hope of that is a criminal referral.
I reiterate my previous assertion that no ethical person would have
agreed to take this on as an engagement.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Michael Banks wrote:
Dear American Equities/American Eagle Investors:
As some of you may know, my name is Roy Thompson and I'm the senior
partner in the Lake Oswego law firm, Thompson Bogran PC. My firm
arranged, at the behest of my clients, Rob and Eva Johnson, the recent
July 25th meeting at which I spoke and in which some of you
participated, either personally or on the phone at the Oregon State Bar.
I and some other attorneys and investors are considering forming an LLC
called "American Equities Recovery, LLC" which is intended to take
advantage of a ruling from the Court on August 2nd. During that
hearing, the Court approved of the process which is sometimes called
"bottom feeding," which essentially allows other investors or third
parties to purchase and/or sell the investment interests of others as
part of the Receivership. I propose to create the AER in order to make
an offer to pay the Receiver between 10 to 25 cents on the dollar for
all assets in the receivership. The offer would be in a form of a
Note, payable in 5 years at 3% interest. Once formed, we would file a
motion with the Court to accept this Note in payment, which would
effectively end the need for a Receivership, thus ending the current
need for legal and receivership fees.
This would also avoid the necessity of placing your money in a
litigation fund because I would propose that your payment to the LLC
would make you a member of the LLC. The LLC would in turn have a
management committee to oversee the hiring of the legal team and the
prosecution of any actions against Mr. Miles and any other persons or
entities the legal team believes should be named in any future actions.
In addition to the management committee I believe an advisory committee
of investors also be informed and kept in "the loop" on all legal
proceedings.
I hope this proposal finds you all well and I look forward to your
input.
Roy B. Thompson/hrs
------------------------------
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:22:03 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receiv
Four of us attended this morning- nothing on docket. Waste of time except
that it was a house private time to discuss things and options.
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 6, 2019, at 7:02 PM, Pat Witt <pat.witt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
How do we check on that? Would Hamstreet post an upcoming court date on the
web site?
I’ll check and let you know if it’s there. If not how do we know?
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 6, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Judy Johnston <glen.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
What meeting in 8-16-19? Investors? Haven’t seen anything about that .
Please let me know about it. Thank you, Judy Johnston
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Ed Wilson <ej.wilson62@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Roy,
Personally I think this is a great idea at first glance. I would like to
take a harder look at this option and hear the opinions of others who are
interested. Every day that goes by with the receivership in place is
costing each investor dearly.
Is there another meeting being planned to inform and discuss the
viability of this plan.
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks,
Ed Wilson
503-572-1324
On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:31 PM, treytennyson3 <treytennyson3@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
No it does not. The receivership acts to suspend legal actions against
the persons and entities that are named as parties only. Ross Miles,
American Equities and American Eagle Mortgage Management are not parties
and can be sued now. That is what Gary Grenley is doing on behalf of
the Nichols, his clients.
Trey Tennyson
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Pat Witt <pat.witt@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/6/19 5:19 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receivership
We have a question....
Does the Receivership have to end before a lawsuit can be brought
against Miles by the or any investor??
Thank you,
Pat Witt and Bob Kalmbach
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mr Thompson,
Very creative thinking, I like it.
However, 10 to 25 cents on the dollar on a bunch of assets whose value
is low to unknown is not going to entice the receiver (much less
his/Ross’ counsel) away from a million dollars in billings. I think
at this rate, between them, they will bill a half million by year end,
easily, and will lengthen the engagement by any means necessary.
However, I am in favor of anything that dissolves the receivership. I
think at this point our only hope of that is a criminal referral.
I reiterate my previous assertion that no ethical person would have
agreed to take this on as an engagement.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Michael Banks wrote:
Dear American Equities/American Eagle Investors:
As some of you may know, my name is Roy Thompson and I'm the senior
partner in the Lake Oswego law firm, Thompson Bogran PC. My firm
arranged, at the behest of my clients, Rob and Eva Johnson, the recent
July 25th meeting at which I spoke and in which some of you
participated, either personally or on the phone at the Oregon State
Bar.
I and some other attorneys and investors are considering forming an
LLC called "American Equities Recovery, LLC" which is intended to take
advantage of a ruling from the Court on August 2nd. During that
hearing, the Court approved of the process which is sometimes called
"bottom feeding," which essentially allows other investors or third
parties to purchase and/or sell the investment interests of others as
part of the Receivership. I propose to create the AER in order to
make an offer to pay the Receiver between 10 to 25 cents on the dollar
for all assets in the receivership. The offer would be in a form of a
Note, payable in 5 years at 3% interest. Once formed, we would file a
motion with the Court to accept this Note in payment, which would
effectively end the need for a Receivership, thus ending the current
need for legal and receivership fees.
This would also avoid the necessity of placing your money in a
litigation fund because I would propose that your payment to the LLC
would make you a member of the LLC. The LLC would in turn have a
management committee to oversee the hiring of the legal team and the
prosecution of any actions against Mr. Miles and any other persons or
entities the legal team believes should be named in any future
actions. In addition to the management committee I believe an advisory
committee of investors also be informed and kept in "the loop" on all
legal proceedings.
I hope this proposal finds you all well and I look forward to your
input.
Roy B. Thompson/hrs
------------------------------
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: When will another investor meeting occur?
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:24:13 -0700
I could make meetings through August. I think it’s important to stay
connected - even if only to check-in and ensure everyone has compiled with
the various requests for details submissions.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 6, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Pat Witt <pat.witt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I realize we just got our butts kicked last Friday in court......are we
going to schedule a meeting in the near future? I cannot attend the 15, 16
or 17th but I am wide open otherwise. Bill Pritchard.....what are your
thoughts here??
Do we wait for more feedback and ideas and info?
Thank you All!
Pat Witt
Sent from my iPad
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 22:24:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "larryman44" for
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at IRA
services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and they
just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a receivership
and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after they received
it.Larry  -----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
#yiv4906341902 p.yiv4906341902MsoNormal, #yiv4906341902
p.yiv4906341902MsoNoSpacing{margin:0;}Has anyone heard anything about this?
Is there a way that we can be relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that
are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't hear
back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from Pensco or
elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
JuliaÂ
--Â
 Julia Pond
 juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:25:41 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Thank you Larry. I will proceed in that manner.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at IRA
services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after they
received it.
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't hear
back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from Pensco
or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:35:04 -0700
From: kellyosler@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation
If I send in money but we don’t have enough for a “war chest�, is that
money rebated back to the investor?
I hope that won’t be the case. I am ready to send $5000 by Monday but I was
really hoping to hear what direction Trey was going on this stuff.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: Robert Johnson
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: August 16, 2019 at 10:32 AM
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: [aem-vanc] Litigation Fund—NOW!
Mike,
Thank you for your vote of confidence. We also feel that few people want to
or are afraid to get involved monetarily. However, we are still in it to win
it. Below is the address and directions for sending a check to Roy
Thompson’s firm. No money will be spent until a direction is determined,
and that direction will only be determined by the contributors. At the
Thompson meeting in Tigard, most people agreed to $5000. We also agree that
5-10% of what is owed is an acceptable amount to contribute.
If you are ready to fight, it is time to get your contribution in to the
fund. No more discussion, no more dilly dallying, just write the check. It is
now or never.
Sent from Rob's iPad ProThompson Bogran PC
5 Centerpointe Dr., Suite 400A
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
Please note that my firm is creating a separate Client Trust Account
specifically related to this potential legal action. Any retainer
checks should be made out to the following Client Trust Account:
“Client Trust Account for Thompson Bográn P.C.�
On Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson <mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx
(mailto:mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this group
really wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend against
this wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence firing
as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily borne from
Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in Roy
Thompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my $5000,
and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20 people. We
need to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a decent start
and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of it as a poker
game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in order to win it?
I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have a good hand if we
get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's been stolen from
us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game, which hover around
0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as our own odds wax and
wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach. This has all
been offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we need to act on
it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send money. That
means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely, Mike Peterson
Sent from Outlook (http://aka.ms/weboutlook)
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:45:10 -0700
From: kellyosler@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation =?utf-8?Q?Fund=E2=80=94NOW=21?=
Does the AEM site contain phone numbers of every investor? I would like to
talk to Trey and a few others.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: kellyosler@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: August 16, 2019 at 3:35 PM
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund—NOW!
If I send in money but we don’t have enough for a “war chest�, is that
money rebated back to the investor?
I hope that won’t be the case. I am ready to send $5000 by Monday but I was
really hoping to hear what direction Trey was going on this stuff.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: Robert Johnson
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: August 16, 2019 at 10:32 AM
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: [aem-vanc] Litigation Fund—NOW!
Mike,
Thank you for your vote of confidence. We also feel that few people want to
or are afraid to get involved monetarily. However, we are still in it to win
it. Below is the address and directions for sending a check to Roy
Thompson’s firm. No money will be spent until a direction is determined,
and that direction will only be determined by the contributors. At the
Thompson meeting in Tigard, most people agreed to $5000. We also agree that
5-10% of what is owed is an acceptable amount to contribute.
If you are ready to fight, it is time to get your contribution in to the
fund. No more discussion, no more dilly dallying, just write the check. It is
now or never.
Sent from Rob's iPad ProThompson Bogran PC
5 Centerpointe Dr., Suite 400A
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
Please note that my firm is creating a separate Client Trust Account
specifically related to this potential legal action. Any retainer
checks should be made out to the following Client Trust Account:
“Client Trust Account for Thompson Bográn P.C.�
On Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson <mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx
(mailto:mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this group
really wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend against
this wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence firing
as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily borne from
Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in Roy
Thompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my $5000,
and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20 people. We
need to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a decent start
and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of it as a poker
game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in order to win it?
I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have a good hand if we
get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's been stolen from
us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game, which hover around
0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as our own odds wax and
wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach. This has all
been offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we need to act on
it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send money. That
means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely, Mike Peterson
Sent from Outlook (http://aka.ms/weboutlook)
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From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:52:53 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund
He did not impress.
Ila
PS I’m just back from ten days at annual North Dakota farm and family trip.
So I’m catching up on things this afternoon.
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It’s a big risk. I would feel more inclined if people had thought that
Gary Grenley did well in court, but I got the impression that was not the
case.
If he couldn’t, for whatever reason, litigate us out of this phony rigged
receivership, what are the chances for anything else?
I’m just being practical here. It’s litigation we’re talking about,
and the prospect has not been made hopeful thus far.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this group
really wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend against
this wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence
firing as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily
borne from Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in Roy
Thompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my $5000,
and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20
people. We need to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a
decent start and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of
it as a poker game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in
order to win it? I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have
a good hand if we get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of
what's been stolen from us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's
game, which hover around 0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's
oversight as our own odds wax and wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach. This
has all been offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we need
to act on it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send
money. That means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no.
Sincerely, Mike Peterson
Sent from Outlook
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From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:00:40 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Perhaps it doesn’t apply but I’ve been reminded by my CPA that all fees
will continue to be pulled from retirement accounts and 1099s will be handled
as valid UNTIL the situation is fully dismissed or cases processed.
That means for me and my son that we will continue to pay taxes on interest
AEM shows on 1099s and we won’t be able to submit amended 1040s (personal
tax returns, but for trust returns as well) until that time since there’s a
three-year limit on how far back we can amend, my fingers are crossed that
these issues, cases and contracts get settled in a timely manner to allow us
some relief at least from the IRS.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't hear
back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from Pensco
or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:14:57 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receiv
Larry,
At the early July meeting at the Peachtree restaurant we did pull together a
small core group for that very purpose. Because it was only locals there,
I’d like to review those names and see if we could gather at least one or
two from outside the Vancouver area. Neil Rylander set up a small, separate
email group for that.
I’ll check and see where we are with that. I’ve been out of town. I’m
more than willing to help in that effort and will send a percentage of my
investment to Thompson’s LLC today.
Thank you,
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 8, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Doug Meddaugh <dmmedda@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:€™t think I need to name names of the investors who have been most active so
To all investors:
I offer the following for your consideration.
I appreciate the clear message and reality check that Mr Thompson presented
below. I can only speak for myself in saying that I have held back in
sending a check until the results of the August 2 hearing were known and a
go-forward strategy was put forth so that I would have a better sense of
how this might proceed. We clearly have some remarkable individuals who are
deeply involved in research, making key contacts and reporting back to the
email group. However, I feel that a key missing piece that is critical to
our hope for success, is organization and leadership. I don’t think it is
fair to put the mantel of leadership on a single individual, so would like
to suggest that perhaps 3-5 people volunteer to step forward to form a
steering committee which can use their best judgement based on input from
the broader group, to lead the charge, discussing among themselves,
identifying needs and calling for volunteers as needed, making decisions
and reporting to the rest of us. I donâ
far and who I think are most knowledgeable and qualified.
ome other vehicle.
I will acquire funds and mail a check as soon as tomorrow if I have the
confidence that this body will grow a head to coordinate the legs in moving
forward.
I deeply appreciate those who have been working so hard on behalf of all
investors. Thank you so much.
Looking forward,
Doug Meddaugh
From: aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ;
On Behalf Of Michael Banks
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 5:06 PM
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receivership
Message from Roy Thompson, attorney for Rob and Eva Johnson
To American Equity Investors
I appreciate all the discussion and commentary about my recent suggestion
regarding the formation of an LLC, as well as the formation of a litigation
fund to pursue those individuals and/or entities not part of the Washington
Receivership.
However, the upshot is that other than receiving a check from two
investors, no one else has sent any other amounts that I am aware of either
to my or Mr. Grenley’s firms. In case you weren’t aware, we imposed a
thirty day deadline to ascertain the interest of you as investors to
establish a litigation fund. I have been approached directly by some
investors who have voiced support both for my ideas and the litigation
fund, and I appreciate their words and actions to date. However, I
represent Rob and Eva Johnson only, and unless there is appreciable
movement towards some resolution within the 30 day window, I and my law
firm will withdraw from any further action in this matter, other than to
support our clients, and only our clients.
I am hopeful there will be some among you who will take it upon yourself to
try to take a lead and advocate for a position that will attempt to move
this matter forward. Again, my firm’s involvement to date has only been
to attempt to facilitate a communal effort on all of your parts to seek
solutions beyond the current Receivership matter. If you are all able to
come together and select a law firm to lead this charge, I have already
stated that my firm cannot and will not take the lead, as this matter is
more appropriately led by a larger firm with more assets available. My law
firm specializes in tax and business litigation, and both my partner and
myself possess advanced tax degrees and have broad experience with
financial tracing efforts for litigation purposes. I have advocated for
Gary Grenley’s firm to take the lead, and Mr. Grenley has indicated his
firm would be consider taking over the matter if enough of you sign up and
contribute to either a litigation fund or s
Frankly, it is time for as many of you to come together in some manner and
select a path that makes sense. Yes it is risky; and yes it will be
expensive. I point out that the meeting that was held on July 25th was
supported by Rob and Eva Johnson and this firm and none of us asked for
money to arrange and hold the meeting. There is no way to sugar coat this
issue. Therefore, if this matter is not resolved in some form by August
26th, I will pull my firm out of this matter completely.
I wish you all the best.
Roy Thompson
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 4:33 PM Michael Banks
<americanequitiesinvestors@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear American Equities/American Eagle Investors:
As some of you may know, my name is Roy Thompson and I'm the senior
partner in the Lake Oswego law firm, Thompson Bogran PC. My firm arranged,
at the behest of my clients, Rob and Eva Johnson, the recent July 25th
meeting at which I spoke and in which some of you participated, either
personally or on the phone at the Oregon State Bar.
I and some other attorneys and investors are considering forming an LLC
called "American Equities Recovery, LLC" which is intended to take
advantage of a ruling from the Court on August 2nd. During that hearing,
the Court approved of the process which is sometimes called "bottom
feeding," which essentially allows other investors or third parties to
purchase and/or sell the investment interests of others as part of the
Receivership. I propose to create the AER in order to make an offer to pay
the Receiver between 10 to 25 cents on the dollar for all assets in the
receivership. The offer would be in a form of a Note, payable in 5 years
at 3% interest. Once formed, we would file a motion with the Court to
accept this Note in payment, which would effectively end the need for a
Receivership, thus ending the current need for legal and receivership fees.
This would also avoid the necessity of placing your money in a litigation
fund because I would propose that your payment to the LLC would make you a
member of the LLC. The LLC would in turn have a management committee to
oversee the hiring of the legal team and the prosecution of any actions
against Mr. Miles and any other persons or entities the legal team believes
should be named in any future actions. In addition to the management
committee I believe an advisory committee of investors also be informed and
kept in "the loop" on all legal proceedings.
I hope this proposal finds you all well and I look forward to your input.
Roy B. Thompson/hrs
------------------------------
From: "Neil & Marilyn" <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:19:36 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
My, new to me, CPA I talked with told me that as of the 2018 tax year,
these losses are treated as casualty losses and can only be used if you are
in a declared disaster area. He said that clearly makes no sense! Prior it
was covered as theft loss. I hope he's incorrect!!
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 4:02 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Perhaps it doesn’t apply but I’ve been reminded by my CPA that all fees
will continue to be pulled from retirement accounts and 1099s will be
handled as valid UNTIL the situation is fully dismissed or cases processed.
That means for me and my son that we will continue to pay taxes on
interest AEM shows on 1099s and we won’t be able to submit amended 1040s
(personal tax returns, but for trust returns as well) until that time since
there’s a three-year limit on how far back we can amend, my fingers are
crossed that these issues, cases and contracts get settled in a timely
manner to allow us some relief at least from the IRS.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:43:56 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Neil,
I see others have connected with Pensco directly sending the first Receiver
notification. That was successful for them to have fees waived. Maybe
you’ve already done that, if not, it seems worth a try.
It was nice seeing you today. It’s always good to have truly private
Conversations.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Neil & Marilyn <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My, new to me, CPA I talked with told me that as of the 2018 tax year,
these losses are treated as casualty losses and can only be used if you are
in a declared disaster area. He said that clearly makes no sense! Prior it
was covered as theft loss. I hope he's incorrect!!
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 4:02 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Perhaps it doesn’t apply but I’ve been reminded by my CPA that all
fees will continue to be pulled from retirement accounts and 1099s will be
handled as valid UNTIL the situation is fully dismissed or cases
processed.
That means for me and my son that we will continue to pay taxes on
interest AEM shows on 1099s and we won’t be able to submit amended 1040s
(personal tax returns, but for trust returns as well) until that time
since there’s a three-year limit on how far back we can amend, my
fingers are crossed that these issues, cases and contracts get settled in
a timely manner to allow us some relief at least from the IRS.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: "Neil & Marilyn" <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:48:38 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Ila! That wasn't me! :-) I'm home with the toothache from hell after being
to the dentist! :-( Yes, I got my fees waived after discussing with a
person named Mary Poe at Pensco. She was helpful especially considering I
left a not so happy voice mail a few days earlier! :-)
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 4:44 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neil,
I see others have connected with Pensco directly sending the first
Receiver notification. That was successful for them to have fees waived.
Maybe you’ve already done that, if not, it seems worth a try.
It was nice seeing you today. It’s always good to have truly private
Conversations.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Neil & Marilyn <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My, new to me, CPA I talked with told me that as of the 2018 tax year,
these losses are treated as casualty losses and can only be used if you are
in a declared disaster area. He said that clearly makes no sense! Prior it
was covered as theft loss. I hope he's incorrect!!
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 4:02 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Perhaps it doesn’t apply but I’ve been reminded by my CPA that all fees
will continue to be pulled from retirement accounts and 1099s will be
handled as valid UNTIL the situation is fully dismissed or cases processed.
That means for me and my son that we will continue to pay taxes on
interest AEM shows on 1099s and we won’t be able to submit amended 1040s
(personal tax returns, but for trust returns as well) until that time since
there’s a three-year limit on how far back we can amend, my fingers are
crossed that these issues, cases and contracts get settled in a timely
manner to allow us some relief at least from the IRS.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: "LARRY MANSFIELD" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:20:47 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Julia,
Do you have the actual mailing address for
Robert Kondrat
My paperwork is ready to send off but lacking physical address
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Larry. I will proceed in that manner.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at IRA
services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after they
received it.
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't hear
back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from Pensco
or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:25:58 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Yes, it's:
Department of Financial Institutions
Attn: Robert Kondrat
PO Box 9033
Olympia, WA 98507-9033
For courier service such as FedEx or UPS, our physical address is:
Department of Financial Institutions
Attn: Robert Kondrat
150 Israel Road SW
Tumwater, WA 98501
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 5:21 PM, LARRY MANSFIELD wrote:
Julia,
Do you have the actual mailing address for
Robert Kondrat
My paperwork is ready to send off but lacking physical address
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Larry. I will proceed in that manner.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at IRA
services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after
they received it.
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: "LARRY MANSFIELD" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 18:09:37 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Thx
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, it's:
Department of Financial Institutions
Attn: Robert Kondrat
PO Box 9033
Olympia, WA 98507-9033
For courier service such as FedEx or UPS, our physical address is:
Department of Financial Institutions
Attn: Robert Kondrat
150 Israel Road SW
Tumwater, WA 98501
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 5:21 PM, LARRY MANSFIELD wrote:
Julia,
Do you have the actual mailing address for
Robert Kondrat
My paperwork is ready to send off but lacking physical address
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Larry. I will proceed in that manner.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at IRA
services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after
they received it.
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
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