Right On Christine! His name is not on the list and he doesn't appear to be
an attorney representing anyone.
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 12:51 PM Christine Bugas <chrisbugas@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Dear Mr. Elkins,
Your name is not on the list that Ross Miles provided to Hamstreet
receivership which list they published on their website, AEMinvestors.com.
Do you represent someone else who is an investor?
Thanks,
Chris Bugas
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:21 AM Al Elkins <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Good morning Julia and investors,
I have been in contact with the law firms Esler Stephens and Larkins
Vacura Kaysar. These two firms
co-counsel with each other and offer the most successful securities
litigation on the West Coast. They are
in the process of investigating the viability of the claims related to
the American Equities EAGLES collapse.
They will be conferring with Clyde Hamstreet and Gary Grenley next week.
These law firms experience and expertise in securities fraud leads
them in the direction that American Equities
co-mingled funds and/or have connections tying them together outside of
the "pools". They are focused on parties
and entities that may have helped and enabled American Equities pull off
this ponzi scheme.
At the July 25th meeting, Mr. Roy Thompson stressed the importance
of a large law firm to handle our situation; Larkins
Vacura Kaysar fits that criteria. Mr. Thompson also stressed the fact of
joining together to fund this lawsuit; I suggest 1%
of your loss be contributed to this fund.
A letter to ALL investors has never materialized. It is the utmost
urgency to reach out to everybody that has a monetary
investment so they are aware what is happening. A request for their phone
number and e-mail address will be asked.
If Larkins Vacura Kaysar accepts our case, they will be able to
pursue criminal charges and attempt to recoup our investments
in the pool as well as outside the pools.
I will let you know ASAP as soon as they make the decision!!
HANG IN THERE!!
Al Elkins
-----Original Message-----
From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc digest users <ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 10:08 pm
Subject: aem-vanc Digest V1 #49
aem-vanc Digest Fri, 16 Aug 2019 Volume: 01 Issue: 049
In This Issue:
[aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund
[aem-vanc] =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[aem-vanc]_Litigation_Fund=E2=80=94
[aem-vanc] Communications with Miller Nash
[aem-vanc] Re: Communications with Miller Nash
[aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end
[aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end
[aem-vanc] Re: When will another investor meeting occur?
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Litigation
[aem-vanc] Re: Litigation =?utf-8?Q?Fund=E2=80=94NOW=21?=
[aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
[aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:51:28 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund
It’s a big risk. I would feel more inclined if people had thought that
Gary Grenley did well in court, but I got the impression that was not the
case.
If he couldn’t, for whatever reason, litigate us out of this phony
rigged receivership, what are the chances for anything else?
I’m just being practical here. It’s litigation we’re talking about,
and the prospect has not been made hopeful thus far.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this groupreally wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend againstthis wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence firing
as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily borne from
Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in RoyThompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my$5000, and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20 people.We need to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a decent
start and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of it as a
poker game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in order to
win it? I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have a good
hand if we get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's been
stolen from us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game, which
hover around 0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as our own
odds wax and wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach. This hasall been offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we need to act
on it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send money. That
means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely, Mike
Peterson
Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
------------------------------
Subject: [aem-vanc]
=?utf-8?Q?Re:_[aem-vanc]_Litigation_Fund=E2=80=94NOW!?=
From: Robert Johnson <rdj11256@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:39:28 -0700
Mike,
Thank you for your vote of confidence. We also feel that few people want
to or are afraid to get involved monetarily. However, we are still in it to
win it. Below is the address and directions for sending a check to Roy
Thompson’s firm. No money will be spent until a direction is determined,
and that direction will only be determined by the contributors. At the
Thompson meeting in Tigard, most people agreed to $5000. We also agree that
5-10% of what is owed is an acceptable amount to contribute.
If you are ready to fight, it is time to get your contribution in to the
fund. No more discussion, no more dilly dallying, just write the check. It
is now or never.
specifically related to this potential legal action. Any retainer checksThompson Bogran PC
5 Centerpointe Dr., Suite 400A
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
Please note that my firm is creating a separate Client Trust Account
should be made out to the following Client Trust Account:
“Client Trust Account for Thompson Bográn P.C.�
Sent from Rob's iPad Pro
On Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson <mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
really wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this group
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend againstthis wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence firing
as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily borne from
Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in RoyThompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my$5000, and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20people. We need to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a
decent start and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of
it as a poker game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in
order to win it? I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have
a good hand if we get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's
been stolen from us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game,
which hover around 0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as
our own odds wax and wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach.This has all been offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we
need to act on it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send
money. That means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely,
Mike Peterson
Sent from Outlook
------------------------------
From: Michael Banks <americanequitiesinvestors@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:40:07 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Communications with Miller Nash
Dear Investors
I have attached a copy of my recent correspondence with Sanford Landress
of
Miller Nash for your review.
Sincerely,
Roy B. Thompson/js
dictated but not read
------------------------------
From: "bfranke" <bfranke@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Communications with Miller Nash
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:53:19 -0500
We appreciate the support from your law firm.
Belinda
From: aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Michael Banks
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 1:40 PM
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Communications with Miller Nash
Dear Investors
I have attached a copy of my recent correspondence with Sanford Landress
of Miller Nash for your review.
Sincerely,
Roy B. Thompson/js
dictated but not read
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:02:01 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: "Neil & Marilyn" <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:25:58 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
I had been in contact with Pensco and finally got their attention when I
raised a little hell and they have suspended my fees. :-) Nuts! I had the
name and phone number of person to talk with. Call Pensco at: 800-962-4238
and ask for Mary Poe(?).
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:02 PM Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can behear
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (fromPensco
or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:28:48 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Aw thanks Neil!!
I got nasty in my emails to the receiver and to them. It’s just
maddening that people continue to bleed ya dry after Ross gets done.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Neil & Marilyn wrote:
I had been in contact with Pensco and finally got their attention whenI raised a little hell and they have suspended my fees. :-) Nuts! I had the
name and phone number of person to talk with. Call Pensco at: 800-962-4238
and ask for Mary Poe(?).
wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:02 PM Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?__
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:20:41 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receiv
That was the original but cancelled court date.
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 6, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Judy Johnston <glen.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
. Please let me know about it. Thank you, Judy Johnston
What meeting in 8-16-19? Investors? Haven’t seen anything about that
to take a harder look at this option and hear the opinions of others who
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Ed Wilson <ej.wilson62@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Roy,
Personally I think this is a great idea at first glance. I would like
are interested. Every day that goes by with the receivership in place is
costing each investor dearly.
viability of this plan.Is there another meeting being planned to inform and discuss the
wrote:
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks,
Ed Wilson
503-572-1324
On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:31 PM, treytennyson3 <treytennyson3@xxxxxxxxx>
against the persons and entities that are named as parties only. Ross
No it does not. The receivership acts to suspend legal actions
Miles, American Equities and American Eagle Mortgage Management are not
parties and can be sued now. That is what Gary Grenley is doing on behalf
of the Nichols, his clients.
of Receivership
Trey Tennyson
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Pat Witt <pat.witt@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/6/19 5:19 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end
against Miles by the or any investor??
We have a question....
Does the Receivership have to end before a lawsuit can be brought
wrote:Thank you,
Pat Witt and Bob Kalmbach
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
value is low to unknown is not going to entice the receiver (much less
Mr Thompson,
Very creative thinking, I like it.
However, 10 to 25 cents on the dollar on a bunch of assets whose
his/Ross’ counsel) away from a million dollars in billings. I think at
this rate, between them, they will bill a half million by year end, easily,
and will lengthen the engagement by any means necessary.
I think at this point our only hope of that is a criminal referral.
However, I am in favor of anything that dissolves the receivership.
agreed to take this on as an engagement.
I reiterate my previous assertion that no ethical person would have
senior partner in the Lake Oswego law firm, Thompson Bogran PC. My firm--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Michael Banks wrote:
Dear American Equities/American Eagle Investors:
As some of you may know, my name is Roy Thompson and I'm the
arranged, at the behest of my clients, Rob and Eva Johnson, the recent July
25th meeting at which I spoke and in which some of you participated, either
personally or on the phone at the Oregon State Bar.
LLC called "American Equities Recovery, LLC" which is intended to take
I and some other attorneys and investors are considering forming an
advantage of a ruling from the Court on August 2nd. During that hearing,
the Court approved of the process which is sometimes called "bottom
feeding," which essentially allows other investors or third parties to
purchase and/or sell the investment interests of others as part of the
Receivership. I propose to create the AER in order to make an offer to pay
the Receiver between 10 to 25 cents on the dollar for all assets in the
receivership. The offer would be in a form of a Note, payable in 5 years
at 3% interest. Once formed, we would file a motion with the Court to
accept this Note in payment, which would effectively end the need for a
Receivership, thus ending the current need for legal and receivership fees.
litigation fund because I would propose that your payment to the LLC would
This would also avoid the necessity of placing your money in a
make you a member of the LLC. The LLC would in turn have a management
committee to oversee the hiring of the legal team and the prosecution of
any actions against Mr. Miles and any other persons or entities the legal
team believes should be named in any future actions. In addition to the
management committee I believe an advisory committee of investors also be
informed and kept in "the loop" on all legal proceedings.
input.
I hope this proposal finds you all well and I look forward to your
Roy B. Thompson/hrs
------------------------------
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:22:03 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receiv
Four of us attended this morning- nothing on docket. Waste of time
except that it was a house private time to discuss things and options.
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 6, 2019, at 7:02 PM, Pat Witt <pat.witt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:the web site?
How do we check on that? Would Hamstreet post an upcoming court date on
I’ll check and let you know if it’s there. If not how do we know?wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 6, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Judy Johnston <glen.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
. Please let me know about it. Thank you, Judy Johnston
What meeting in 8-16-19? Investors? Haven’t seen anything about that
like to take a harder look at this option and hear the opinions of others
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Ed Wilson <ej.wilson62@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Roy,
Personally I think this is a great idea at first glance. I would
who are interested. Every day that goes by with the receivership in place
is costing each investor dearly.
viability of this plan.Is there another meeting being planned to inform and discuss the
wrote:
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks,
Ed Wilson
503-572-1324
On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:31 PM, treytennyson3 <treytennyson3@xxxxxxxxx>
against the persons and entities that are named as parties only. Ross
No it does not. The receivership acts to suspend legal actions
Miles, American Equities and American Eagle Mortgage Management are not
parties and can be sued now. That is what Gary Grenley is doing on behalf
of the Nichols, his clients.
end of Receivership
Trey Tennyson
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Pat Witt <pat.witt@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/6/19 5:19 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the
against Miles by the or any investor??
We have a question....
Does the Receivership have to end before a lawsuit can be brought
wrote:Thank you,
Pat Witt and Bob Kalmbach
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 6, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
value is low to unknown is not going to entice the receiver (much less
Mr Thompson,
Very creative thinking, I like it.
However, 10 to 25 cents on the dollar on a bunch of assets whose
his/Ross’ counsel) away from a million dollars in billings. I think at
this rate, between them, they will bill a half million by year end, easily,
and will lengthen the engagement by any means necessary.
I think at this point our only hope of that is a criminal referral.
However, I am in favor of anything that dissolves the receivership.
agreed to take this on as an engagement.
I reiterate my previous assertion that no ethical person would have
senior partner in the Lake Oswego law firm, Thompson Bogran PC. My firm--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, at 4:34 PM, Michael Banks wrote:
Dear American Equities/American Eagle Investors:
As some of you may know, my name is Roy Thompson and I'm the
arranged, at the behest of my clients, Rob and Eva Johnson, the recent July
25th meeting at which I spoke and in which some of you participated, either
personally or on the phone at the Oregon State Bar.
an LLC called "American Equities Recovery, LLC" which is intended to take
I and some other attorneys and investors are considering forming
advantage of a ruling from the Court on August 2nd. During that hearing,
the Court approved of the process which is sometimes called "bottom
feeding," which essentially allows other investors or third parties to
purchase and/or sell the investment interests of others as part of the
Receivership. I propose to create the AER in order to make an offer to pay
the Receiver between 10 to 25 cents on the dollar for all assets in the
receivership. The offer would be in a form of a Note, payable in 5 years
at 3% interest. Once formed, we would file a motion with the Court to
accept this Note in payment, which would effectively end the need for a
Receivership, thus ending the current need for legal and receivership fees.
litigation fund because I would propose that your payment to the LLC would
This would also avoid the necessity of placing your money in a
make you a member of the LLC. The LLC would in turn have a management
committee to oversee the hiring of the legal team and the prosecution of
any actions against Mr. Miles and any other persons or entities the legal
team believes should be named in any future actions. In addition to the
management committee I believe an advisory committee of investors also be
informed and kept in "the loop" on all legal proceedings.
input.
I hope this proposal finds you all well and I look forward to your
Roy B. Thompson/hrs
------------------------------
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: When will another investor meeting occur?
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:24:13 -0700
I could make meetings through August. I think it’s important to stay
connected - even if only to check-in and ensure everyone has compiled with
the various requests for details submissions.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 6, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Pat Witt <pat.witt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:we going to schedule a meeting in the near future? I cannot attend the 15,
I realize we just got our butts kicked last Friday in court......are
16 or 17th but I am wide open otherwise. Bill Pritchard.....what are your
thoughts here??
Do we wait for more feedback and ideas and info?
Thank you All!
Pat Witt
Sent from my iPad
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 22:24:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "larryman44" for
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at IRA
services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after they
received it.Larry  -----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
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p.yiv4906341902MsoNoSpacing{margin:0;}Has anyone heard anything about this?
Is there a way that we can be relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that
are now worthless?
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
JuliaÂ
--Â
 Julia Pond
 juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:25:41 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Thank you Larry. I will proceed in that manner.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at IRAservices, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after they
received it.
Larryrelieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:35:04 -0700
From: kellyosler@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation
If I send in money but we don’t have enough for a “war chest�, is
that money rebated back to the investor?
I hope that won’t be the case. I am ready to send $5000 by Monday but I
was really hoping to hear what direction Trey was going on this stuff.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: Robert Johnson
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: August 16, 2019 at 10:32 AM
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: [aem-vanc] Litigation Fund—NOW!
Mike,
Thank you for your vote of confidence. We also feel that few people want
to or are afraid to get involved monetarily. However, we are still in it to
win it. Below is the address and directions for sending a check to Roy
Thompson’s firm. No money will be spent until a direction is determined,
and that direction will only be determined by the contributors. At the
Thompson meeting in Tigard, most people agreed to $5000. We also agree that
5-10% of what is owed is an acceptable amount to contribute.
If you are ready to fight, it is time to get your contribution in to the
fund. No more discussion, no more dilly dallying, just write the check. It
is now or never.
Account specifically related to this potential legal action. Any retainerThompson Bogran PC
5 Centerpointe Dr., Suite 400A
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
Please note that my firm is creating a separate Client Trust
checks should be made out to the following Client Trust Account:
Sent from Rob's iPad Pro
“Client Trust Account for Thompson Bográn P.C.�
On Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson <mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx
(mailto:mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this groupreally wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend againstthis wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence firing
as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily borne from
Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in RoyThompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my$5000, and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20 people. Weneed to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a decent start
and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of it as a poker
game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in order to win it?
I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have a good hand if we
get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's been stolen from
us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game, which hover around
0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as our own odds wax and
wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach. This has allbeen offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we need to act on
it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send money. That
means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely, Mike Peterson
Sent from Outlook (http://aka.ms/weboutlook)
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:45:10 -0700
From: kellyosler@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation =?utf-8?Q?Fund=E2=80=94NOW=21?=
Does the AEM site contain phone numbers of every investor? I would like
to talk to Trey and a few others.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: kellyosler@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: August 16, 2019 at 3:35 PM
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund—NOW!
If I send in money but we don’t have enough for a “war chest�, is
that money rebated back to the investor?
I hope that won’t be the case. I am ready to send $5000 by Monday but I
was really hoping to hear what direction Trey was going on this stuff.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: Robert Johnson
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: August 16, 2019 at 10:32 AM
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: [aem-vanc] Litigation Fund—NOW!
Mike,
Thank you for your vote of confidence. We also feel that few people want
to or are afraid to get involved monetarily. However, we are still in it to
win it. Below is the address and directions for sending a check to Roy
Thompson’s firm. No money will be spent until a direction is determined,
and that direction will only be determined by the contributors. At the
Thompson meeting in Tigard, most people agreed to $5000. We also agree that
5-10% of what is owed is an acceptable amount to contribute.
If you are ready to fight, it is time to get your contribution in to the
fund. No more discussion, no more dilly dallying, just write the check. It
is now or never.
Account specifically related to this potential legal action. Any retainerThompson Bogran PC
5 Centerpointe Dr., Suite 400A
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
Please note that my firm is creating a separate Client Trust
checks should be made out to the following Client Trust Account:
Sent from Rob's iPad Pro
“Client Trust Account for Thompson Bográn P.C.�
On Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson <mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx
(mailto:mt_peterson@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this groupreally wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some final
observations.
1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend againstthis wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to commence firing
as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not easily borne from
Arizona.
2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in RoyThompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my$5000, and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
Specifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about 20 people. Weneed to average about $10,000 in donations per person to get a decent start
and convince the right people that we mean business. Think of it as a poker
game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in order to win it?
I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have a good hand if we
get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's been stolen from
us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game, which hover around
0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as our own odds wax and
wane.
We don't need comments about the quality of this approach. This has allbeen offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and we need to act on
it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send money. That
means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely, Mike Peterson
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From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:52:53 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Litigation Fund
He did not impress.
Ila
PS I’m just back from ten days at annual North Dakota farm and family
trip. So I’m catching up on things this afternoon.
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:that Gary Grenley did well in court, but I got the impression that was not
It’s a big risk. I would feel more inclined if people had thought
the case.
rigged receivership, what are the chances for anything else?
If he couldn’t, for whatever reason, litigate us out of this phony
about, and the prospect has not been made hopeful thus far.
I’m just being practical here. It’s litigation we’re talking
group really wants to get into solution mode. Nonetheless, I offer some
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Mike Peterson wrote:
Before I wander off somewhere: I see little indication that this
final observations.
against this wholesale slaughter of our assets. I would ask them to1) Rob and Eva Johnson were the first to suggest ways to defend
commence firing as our spokespersons and coordinators. This is a role not
easily borne from Arizona.
Thompson. I would ask that they enlist his help in this endeavor, and2) Rob and Eva have retained an eminently capable counselor in Roy
follow his advice. I believe that he leans toward the Grenley law firm. If
he prefers another firm, then we should retain them.
$5000, and I'm ready to send more if I see some indication that there is3) None of this is worthwhile without a war chest. I've sent in my
sufficient unanimity to give us a chance in court. Otherwise, we can save
our time and money by going our own ways.
20 people. We need to average about $10,000 in donations per person to getSpecifically: The e-mail list has been dominated by about
a decent start and convince the right people that we mean business. Think
of it as a poker game. If the pot is $100,000, then what might you risk in
order to win it? I'd risk $10,000 if I had a good hand. I think we'll have
a good hand if we get started right now. If we each risk 5 to 10% of what's
been stolen from us, then we'll easily beat the odds in Hamstreet's game,
which hover around 0%. I believe that we need Roy Thompson's oversight as
our own odds wax and wane.
This has all been offered to us by the Johnsons and Mr. Thompson, and weWe don't need comments about the quality of this approach.
need to act on it. There's only one way to act on it, and that is to send
money. That means YES. All the rest is just talk, and means no. Sincerely,
Mike Peterson
Sent from Outlook
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From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:00:40 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Perhaps it doesn’t apply but I’ve been reminded by my CPA that all
fees will continue to be pulled from retirement accounts and 1099s will be
handled as valid UNTIL the situation is fully dismissed or cases processed.
That means for me and my son that we will continue to pay taxes on
interest AEM shows on 1099s and we won’t be able to submit amended 1040s
(personal tax returns, but for trust returns as well) until that time since
there’s a three-year limit on how far back we can amend, my fingers are
crossed that these issues, cases and contracts get settled in a timely
manner to allow us some relief at least from the IRS.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:14:57 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end of
Receiv
Larry,
At the early July meeting at the Peachtree restaurant we did pull
together a small core group for that very purpose. Because it was only
locals there, I’d like to review those names and see if we could gather
at least one or two from outside the Vancouver area. Neil Rylander set up a
small, separate email group for that.
I’ll check and see where we are with that. I’ve been out of town.
I’m more than willing to help in that effort and will send a percentage
of my investment to Thompson’s LLC today.
Thank you,
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 8, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Doug Meddaugh <dmmedda@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:presented below. I can only speak for myself in saying that I have held
To all investors:
I offer the following for your consideration.
I appreciate the clear message and reality check that Mr Thompson
back in sending a check until the results of the August 2 hearing were
known and a go-forward strategy was put forth so that I would have a better
sense of how this might proceed. We clearly have some remarkable
individuals who are deeply involved in research, making key contacts and
reporting back to the email group. However, I feel that a key missing piece
that is critical to our hope for success, is organization and leadership. I
don’t think it is fair to put the mantel of leadership on a single
individual, so would like to suggest that perhaps 3-5 people volunteer to
step forward to form a steering committee which can use their best
judgement based on input from the broader group, to lead the charge,
discussing among themselves, identifying needs and calling for volunteers
as needed, making decisions and reporting to the rest of us. I donâ
€™t think I need to name names of the investors who have been most active
so far and who I think are most knowledgeable and qualified.
confidence that this body will grow a head to coordinate the legs in moving
I will acquire funds and mail a check as soon as tomorrow if I have the
forward.
all investors. Thank you so much.
I deeply appreciate those who have been working so hard on behalf of
aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Banks
Looking forward,
Doug Meddaugh
From: aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 5:06 PMof Receivership
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Proposal for formation of new LLC and the end
suggestion regarding the formation of an LLC, as well as the formation of a
Message from Roy Thompson, attorney for Rob and Eva Johnson
To American Equity Investors
I appreciate all the discussion and commentary about my recent
litigation fund to pursue those individuals and/or entities not part of the
Washington Receivership.
investors, no one else has sent any other amounts that I am aware of either
However, the upshot is that other than receiving a check from two
to my or Mr. Grenley’s firms. In case you weren’t aware, we imposed a
thirty day deadline to ascertain the interest of you as investors to
establish a litigation fund. I have been approached directly by some
investors who have voiced support both for my ideas and the litigation
fund, and I appreciate their words and actions to date. However, I
represent Rob and Eva Johnson only, and unless there is appreciable
movement towards some resolution within the 30 day window, I and my law
firm will withdraw from any further action in this matter, other than to
support our clients, and only our clients.
yourself to try to take a lead and advocate for a position that will
I am hopeful there will be some among you who will take it upon
attempt to move this matter forward. Again, my firm’s involvement to
date has only been to attempt to facilitate a communal effort on all of
your parts to seek solutions beyond the current Receivership matter. If
you are all able to come together and select a law firm to lead this
charge, I have already stated that my firm cannot and will not take the
lead, as this matter is more appropriately led by a larger firm with more
assets available. My law firm specializes in tax and business litigation,
and both my partner and myself possess advanced tax degrees and have broad
experience with financial tracing efforts for litigation purposes. I have
advocated for Gary Grenley’s firm to take the lead, and Mr. Grenley has
indicated his firm would be consider taking over the matter if enough of
you sign up and contribute to either a litigation fund or s
ome other vehicle.
and select a path that makes sense. Yes it is risky; and yes it will be
Frankly, it is time for as many of you to come together in some manner
expensive. I point out that the meeting that was held on July 25th was
supported by Rob and Eva Johnson and this firm and none of us asked for
money to arrange and hold the meeting. There is no way to sugar coat this
issue. Therefore, if this matter is not resolved in some form by August
26th, I will pull my firm out of this matter completely.
americanequitiesinvestors@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I wish you all the best.
Roy Thompson
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 4:33 PM Michael Banks <
Dear American Equities/American Eagle Investors:partner in the Lake Oswego law firm, Thompson Bogran PC. My firm arranged,
As some of you may know, my name is Roy Thompson and I'm the senior
at the behest of my clients, Rob and Eva Johnson, the recent July 25th
meeting at which I spoke and in which some of you participated, either
personally or on the phone at the Oregon State Bar.
called "American Equities Recovery, LLC" which is intended to take
I and some other attorneys and investors are considering forming an LLC
advantage of a ruling from the Court on August 2nd. During that hearing,
the Court approved of the process which is sometimes called "bottom
feeding," which essentially allows other investors or third parties to
purchase and/or sell the investment interests of others as part of the
Receivership. I propose to create the AER in order to make an offer to pay
the Receiver between 10 to 25 cents on the dollar for all assets in the
receivership. The offer would be in a form of a Note, payable in 5 years
at 3% interest. Once formed, we would file a motion with the Court to
accept this Note in payment, which would effectively end the need for a
Receivership, thus ending the current need for legal and receivership fees.
litigation fund because I would propose that your payment to the LLC would
This would also avoid the necessity of placing your money in a
make you a member of the LLC. The LLC would in turn have a management
committee to oversee the hiring of the legal team and the prosecution of
any actions against Mr. Miles and any other persons or entities the legal
team believes should be named in any future actions. In addition to the
management committee I believe an advisory committee of investors also be
informed and kept in "the loop" on all legal proceedings.
input.
I hope this proposal finds you all well and I look forward to your
Roy B. Thompson/hrs
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From: "Neil & Marilyn" <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:19:36 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
My, new to me, CPA I talked with told me that as of the 2018 tax year,
these losses are treated as casualty losses and can only be used if you
are
in a declared disaster area. He said that clearly makes no sense! Prior it
was covered as theft loss. I hope he's incorrect!!
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 4:02 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Perhaps it doesn’t apply but I’ve been reminded by my CPA that allfees
will continue to be pulled from retirement accounts and 1099s will beprocessed.
handled as valid UNTIL the situation is fully dismissed or cases
1040s
That means for me and my son that we will continue to pay taxes on
interest AEM shows on 1099s and we won’t be able to submit amended
(personal tax returns, but for trust returns as well) until that timesince
there’s a three-year limit on how far back we can amend, my fingersare
crossed that these issues, cases and contracts get settled in a timelywrote:
manner to allow us some relief at least from the IRS.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:43:56 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Neil,
I see others have connected with Pensco directly sending the first
Receiver notification. That was successful for them to have fees waived.
Maybe you’ve already done that, if not, it seems worth a try.
It was nice seeing you today. It’s always good to have truly private
Conversations.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Neil & Marilyn <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:these losses are treated as casualty losses and can only be used if you are
My, new to me, CPA I talked with told me that as of the 2018 tax year,
in a declared disaster area. He said that clearly makes no sense! Prior it
was covered as theft loss. I hope he's incorrect!!
wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 4:02 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
fees will continue to be pulled from retirement accounts and 1099s will bePerhaps it doesn’t apply but I’ve been reminded by my CPA that all
handled as valid UNTIL the situation is fully dismissed or cases processed.
interest AEM shows on 1099s and we won’t be able to submit amended 1040s
That means for me and my son that we will continue to pay taxes on
(personal tax returns, but for trust returns as well) until that time since
there’s a three-year limit on how far back we can amend, my fingers are
crossed that these issues, cases and contracts get settled in a timely
manner to allow us some relief at least from the IRS.
wrote:
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
won't hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably
(from Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: "Neil & Marilyn" <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:48:38 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Ila! That wasn't me! :-) I'm home with the toothache from hell after
being
to the dentist! :-( Yes, I got my fees waived after discussing with a
person named Mary Poe at Pensco. She was helpful especially considering I
left a not so happy voice mail a few days earlier! :-)
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 4:44 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neil,are
I see others have connected with Pensco directly sending the first
Receiver notification. That was successful for them to have fees waived.
Maybe you’ve already done that, if not, it seems worth a try.
It was nice seeing you today. It’s always good to have truly private
Conversations.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 4:19 PM, Neil & Marilyn <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My, new to me, CPA I talked with told me that as of the 2018 tax year,
these losses are treated as casualty losses and can only be used if you
in a declared disaster area. He said that clearly makes no sense! Priorit
was covered as theft loss. I hope he's incorrect!!wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 4:02 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx>
fees
Perhaps it doesn’t apply but I’ve been reminded by my CPA that all
processed.will continue to be pulled from retirement accounts and 1099s will be
handled as valid UNTIL the situation is fully dismissed or cases
1040s
That means for me and my son that we will continue to pay taxes on
interest AEM shows on 1099s and we won’t be able to submit amended
since(personal tax returns, but for trust returns as well) until that time
arethere’s a three-year limit on how far back we can amend, my fingers
wrote:crossed that these issues, cases and contracts get settled in a timely
manner to allow us some relief at least from the IRS.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 16, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: "LARRY MANSFIELD" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:20:47 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Julia,
Do you have the actual mailing address for
Robert Kondrat
My paperwork is ready to send off but lacking physical address
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and
Thank you Larry. I will proceed in that manner.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at IRA
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after they
received it.
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:25:58 -0700
From: "Julia Pond" <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Yes, it's:
Department of Financial Institutions
Attn: Robert Kondrat
PO Box 9033
Olympia, WA 98507-9033
For courier service such as FedEx or UPS, our physical address is:
Department of Financial Institutions
Attn: Robert Kondrat
150 Israel Road SW
Tumwater, WA 98501
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 5:21 PM, LARRY MANSFIELD wrote:
Julia,IRA services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained and
Do you have the actual mailing address for
Robert Kondrat
My paperwork is ready to send off but lacking physical address
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you Larry. I will proceed in that manner.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after they
received it.
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information (from
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably won't
Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
------------------------------
From: "LARRY MANSFIELD" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 18:09:37 -0700
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: Pensco IRAs
Thx
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:wrote:
Yes, it's:
Department of Financial Institutions
Attn: Robert Kondrat
PO Box 9033
Olympia, WA 98507-9033
For courier service such as FedEx or UPS, our physical address is:
Department of Financial Institutions
Attn: Robert Kondrat
150 Israel Road SW
Tumwater, WA 98501
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 5:21 PM, LARRY MANSFIELD wrote:
Julia,
Do you have the actual mailing address for
Robert Kondrat
My paperwork is ready to send off but lacking physical address
Thx
Larry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
IRA services, I called them and spoke with the fraud dept and explained andThank you Larry. I will proceed in that manner.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Julia, I have a Roth IRA that miles and friends pilfered, It is at
they just said send us proof which I sent the Hamstreet letter as a
receivership and they said fine, and I got a email confirmation after they
received it.
relieved of paying the IRA fees for IRAs that are now worthless?Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: aem-vanc <aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 2:02 pm
Subject: [aem-vanc] Pensco IRAs
Has anyone heard anything about this? Is there a way that we can be
won't hear back in any speedy fashion. Does anyone have any information
I wrote the receiver a short nasty note just now but I probably
(from Pensco or elsewhere)?
Yours in penury,
Julia
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
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