I need to know... : When did «forgive us our trespasses as we forgive
those who trespass against us» become/turn into «forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors» ?
P.S. : Prayer/Meditation has far more effect when /done in groups/
(proven by parapsychologists/paranormal-researchers whom are ironically
often vilified by the religious just as much as they are by the
atheists/materialists) rather than individually trying to affect
external-results; /internally/, prayer serves a useful
individual-purpose of keeping one's thoughts and thus emotions under
self-control, such that one is less-likely to end up doing or saying
things that they will later on regret. Additionally, Prayer does not
erase Karmic-Debts (Spiritual-Penalties) that any have accumulated into
their Eternal Book-of-Life Spiritual-Records, even though causing people
to witness «Miracles» (through focused group-prayer) can most-certainly
help to change their dispositions for the better (assuming that they are
not such a dogmatic materialist-skeptic that they just pass it off as
coincidence or the placebo-effect or spontaneous-remission or otherwise;
random not-so-random fact : the opposite of the placebo-effect is known
as the nocebo-effect).
Further notes on prayer according to Modern Day Saint Clemencia as
revealed by The Messiah himself...:
«I understand how difficult it may be for the millions of people who
gain great comfort from the beliefs associated with the rites and
rituals of worship at the alter of their churches, mosques, shrines or
temples, but it seems to me that we have arrived at a time in history
where we are required to understand that our daily/actions/in
our/interaction with others/speak louder to God than all our words,
prayers or whatever rituals or forms of worship we may perform.»
«During previous centuries the priesthood of many religions declared
that to pacify the Gods human sacrifice was required. Today we can see
the error of such thinking but at the same time we are blind to the
error of our modern day equivalent - intercession through prayer,
worship and rituals which have no more capacity to abate or lessen our
daily use of negativity towards others than did the practice of human
sacrifice.
No worship, prayer, sacrifice or confession/remits/the/consequence of
the negative energy we choose to use/in our daily actions with others
and the revelation under discussion in this article reveals why this is so.»
...quoted from http://the-testament-of-truth.com/clem/forgive/salvation.htm
On 2022/07/22 11:17, Mike wrote:
Do your prayers fall into the requirements outlined in the Bible, or are they ignored?