You're 100% right Theresa, and I take the same approach. And, like you, after speaking with them most do opt to S/N. We get much farther (whether talking about breeding, BSL, responsible ownership, whatever) when we approach it with kindness, compassion and understanding. I don't think it's right to try to "bully" people to my way of thinking. Renee Jones-Lewis, CPDT Pet Marketing/Canine Specialist 1-800-533-3377 ext. 381 rsjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: accmemberdiscussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:accmemberdiscussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Theresa Moreno Cook Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:54 PM To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] breeding was Education opportunities As far as breeding, when people contact me about breeding their dog or purchasing to breed, I never come out and say "don't breed" (although that's what I would like to say!!!). I ask why they want to breed; if they want another I explain it is much less expensive and less work to purchase or adopt. If for whatever reason they want to breed, I try to educate them about breeding by saying they should be sure to be familiar with their breed 's standard (providing a copy if necessary), find a stud (or bitch) to complement their dog's faults (offering to help as best as I can if necessary), get all health clearances done (pointing them to the appropriate veterinarians) and I tell them the horror stories of what can happen. I myself lost a bitch two days before whelping. She was my favorite girl; the best structured and best moving dog I ever owned. I lost her and nine gorgeous puppies. I ask if they are willing to take that chance, because it IS possible to lose their family pet. Most people stop at that point and say no, they aren't willing to take that chance and ask where they can find a pup. If the owner of a male, or they still want to breed, I then ask "If you can't place them what will you do? If a buyer can't keep their puppy what will you do?" If they say they don't know, I remind them there are thousands of puppies that need homes, which is why I take responsibility for each and every puppy I bring into the world. The puppies didn't ask to be born and I claim them as my own until they cross the bridge. I've found that most people contacting me want to "do better" meaning they don't want to dump their pups at the shelter if they can't place them and are open to the idea of S/N. In the end I'd say 90% were S/N and they went on to adopt or purchase their new dog. I just try to remember we all started someplace and think of how I would want someone to educate me. Theresa The video HSUS wants to hide! www.vidoosh.tv/play.php?vid=4360