[accmemberdiscussion] Re: Humane Staff Support yahoo group
- From: peggi mcardle <cistesmom@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:11:39 -0700 (PDT)
Theresa, if you are going to join this group please be careful. i don't trust
any AR terrorist that wants to talk to me about compromise. they don't care
who or how they hurt people in order to promote their agenda. peggi
--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Theresa Moreno Cook <southnmist@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Theresa Moreno Cook <southnmist@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Humane Staff Support yahoo group
To: Legal_Samoyed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ALpet-law@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 12:50 PM
Rec'd this on another list...
Theresa
The video HSUS wants to hide!
www.vidoosh.tv/play.php?vid=4360
-----Original Message-----
I was invited to join this group
( http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/humanestaffsupport/ ;) by someone I
don't know last week. I was skeptical at first (as who among us needs
another list) but I checked it out and it is the only place that I have ever
found where both sides of the AR debate seem to be actually talking to each
other. The discussions are tense but civil. I have no Pollyanna-ish
expectations that we can all kiss and make up but not everyone on the AR
side is a Judie Mancuso so I'm spending some time on the list to see if we
can create some sort of middle ground we all can work from since there is so
much mounting evidence that HSUS-sponsored legislation is
counter-productive. It's a long shot but worth a try because I'm sooooo
tired of fighting off endless MSN legislation. If you have anything to do
with rescue (and what breeder doesn't?), you might want to check it out.
(There's been no flaming I've seen and people seem
to be trying to keep the discussion intelligent which is absolutely crucial
if it is to accomplish anything. Please be civil if choose to join.)
Geraldine Clarke
(permission, as always, to crosspost this and the message below from the
HSUS discussion)
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Geraldine Clarke <geraldine101010@xxxxxxxxx>
To: humanestaffsupport@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:38:02 PM
Subject: Re: [humanestaffsupport] Re: H$US
<<< Lastly, the goal of the Humane Society of the United States IS to
legislate these atrocities out of our society.>>>
The goal of HSUS, since its takeover in 2004 by radical vegans led by Wayne
Pacelle, is to legislate breeding out of existence. Pacelle has admitted as
much in the past although he is much more circumspect these days since there
are more people scrutinizing and publicizing his statements. (When asked if
he could envision a future without pets: “If I had my personal view, perhaps
that might take hold. In fact, I don’t want to see another dog or cat
born.” Wayne Pacelle quoted in Bloodties: Nature, Culture and the Hunt by
Ted Kerasote, 1993, p. 266.)
That is an extreme view, of course, and HSUS, being much smarter than PETA,
never states the extreme when they are first proposing legislation.
Instead, they work slowly, small step by small step, toward what they really
want in their new agenda.
A case in point: About a year and a half ago, I listened to a
legislative hearing in Maine where HSUS and other "animal rights" interests
were trying to get a new breeder law passed. The HSUS rep fell all over
herself assuring everyone that HSUS just loves good breeders and wants to
work with them and HSUS is only after the evil "puppy mills." The VERY NEXT
DAY, I watched the Los Angeles City Council meeting where the L.A. HSUS rep
was lauded profusely for being the driving force behind the passing of that
city's draconian new forced sterilization law which makes it virtually
impossible to legally breed a litter there. (And, of course, in later
committee meetings about the Maine law, HSUS kept proposing regulations that
moved closer and closer to defining anyone at all who breeds as a "puppy
mill".) And the tragic upshot is that that the Los Angeles law has resulted
in a skyrocketing (up 30%) of abandoned animals. This happens again
and again and again (e.g., Santa Cruz, San Mateo, Albuquerque, etc. etc.)
when forced sterilization laws are passed. The kind of people who dump
animals always dump them even faster when faced with huge fees and fines.
And it's not just breeders who are stating that. The ASPCA does,
too: www.aspca.org/about-us/policy-positions/mandatory-spay-neuter-laws.htm
l That doesn't seem to faze HSUS at all. They have contributed heavily to
Judie Mancuso who is trying yet again to get a state-wide forced
sterilization law passed in California. If she is successful, many,
many more animals will die in California.
Another example of HSUS deception: As soon as Michael Vick was arrested,
HSUS put out a huge campaign for donations to help them "save Vick's dogs".
The clear implication in those ads was than any money donated would go
toward helping those unfortunate animals which, of course, wasn't the case
because the dogs were being held as evidence by the state and HSUS had
absolutely no control over them. Then, to add injury to insult, HSUS later
called loudly for all Vick's dogs to be killed because they were "too
dangerous", dogs that Best Friends and others finally got custody of and
rehabbed, even turning a couple into therapy dogs. Thank God that HSUS
didn't prevail!
<<< We, as Humane workers and volunteers, can chip away at the problems
locally, one shelter, dog or cat at a time. But until laws are passed that
regulate how animals can be bred, sold and treated by their owners or
guardians, nothing will really change. >>>
It isn't laws that will make the difference. It is education, TNR and
making free or low cost neutering clinics available in low income areas.
That is what has dramatically reduced the number of animals killed in
shelters over the last three decades. When we cry over all the animals put
down in shelters, we sometimes forget that we have already come a long, long
way. There is, it goes without saying, a long, long, long way to go and
every animal killed is a tragedy but we need to focus on things that really
work. HSUS doesn't.
HSUS gets about $130,000,000.00 in donations every year, most of it coming
from people who think that their money will be going to directly help all
those sad-faced dogs and cats in the HSUS ads. But only a very tiny
fraction does. Imagine what could be done if that 130 million would go
toward financing TNR and free neutering clinics in the low income areas
where most of the animals killed in shelters come from. If those resources
were used to implement a No Kill future instead of it being spent on
lobbyists and lawyers trying to pass counterproductive laws, we could do so
much!
Those of you who defend HSUS need to take the organization back from the
people who are spending so much of those incredible resources on
counter-productive legislation.
Geraldine Clarke
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