Robin, I'm wondering too . . . as I already have the right cable fitting and a slightly funny looking adapter from Maplin which enables me to charge my Holux GPSLIM 236 directly from a mains socket. (It's worked perfectly this way for ages.) I'm wondering now if this will harm the Zen! <Smiles> Haven't dared to try yet as it's my husband's wedding anniversary present and he can't put it down! -- Carol carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [access-uk] zen stone and mains charger Is there a mains charger for the zen stone other than charging it by an usb port on a computer. or could there be a charger with a usb like port for charging it, I wonder could a powered hub do the job. Cheers Robin. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Of course, we are all worms--but I like to think, at least, that I am a glowworm. Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill