Hi Mike, That document of key strokes would be most useful if you had the time to put it together, please keep us all updated, Thanks, Scott -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ray Sent: 27 October 2012 18:53 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: upgrading Jaws Peter, That's great to know. Never having used Jaws I wasn't aware of this. I don't really know why Jaws seems to be the market leader in screen-readers. I've been thinking about the possibility of putting together a screen-reader keystroke cross-reference document or even web page. It would be great to have the keystrokes for NVDA, Jaws, WindowEyes and Supernova (and others) all available in one place and immediately selectable by task without searching through loads of documentation. Mike Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@xxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:37 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: upgrading Jaws >A lot of the keystrokes are the same as jaws. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Ray" <mike.ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:04 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: upgrading Jaws > > >> Andrew, >> >> Go to: >> >> http://www.nvda-project.org >> >> Follow the download link and download 2012.2.1 >> >> Click on the downloaded file. It is a talking installer so you might >> need to silence Jaws while you install it. >> >> It doesn't, as far as I know, use the same key-strokes as Jaws, but then >> Jaws doesn't use the same key-strokes as NVDA. >> >> If you want a screen-reader that uses exactly the same key-strokes as >> Jaws then stick to Jaws. >> >> As far as the question 'will it do the same as Jaws' is concerned, the >> answer is probably no. But then WindowEyes, Supernova and System Access >> don't do the same. They just attempt to perform the same result in >> slightly different ways. >> >> I use NVDA because I am not prepared to pay four times as much as my PC >> cost just to make it accessible. >> >> Mike Ray >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "andrew shipp" <andrew.shipp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:51 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: upgrading Jaws >> >> >>> Hi Peter Ok a couple of people have said about NVDA besides it >>> being free, what other help is it. the last time I tried to download >>> it I had problems and haven't tried since. will it do the same as Jaws? >>> does it use the same keystrokes? I am prepared to give it another go >>> if I'm told how to do what I need to for to download it. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Peter Beasley >>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:59 PM >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: upgrading Jaws >>> >>> Have you tried NVDA? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:50 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: upgrading Jaws >>> >>> >>>> Andy, Afraid you will need Jaws Pro if you're running a pro version of >>>> Windows. Shame about that. >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Richard Godfrey-McKay >>>> >>>> Telephone: 01738-445 880 >>>> >>>> Mobile: 07791 452 593 >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of andrew shipp >>>> Sent: 27 October 2012 09:24 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: upgrading Jaws >>>> >>>> Hi Ok I see what you mean, but what is the price difference? I >>>> use >>>> pro because I have windows pro 7 on my laptop. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Richard Godfrey-McKay >>>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:53 AM >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: upgrading Jaws >>>> >>>> Andy, If price is a consideration, I wonder if you still need the pro >>>> version? You can now save money by downgrading JAWS to standard if you >>>> don't need pro, and most people won't need pro in a home environment. >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Richard Godfrey-McKay >>>> >>>> Telephone: 01738-445 880 >>>> >>>> Mobile: 07791 452 593 >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of andrew shipp >>>> Sent: 26 October 2012 16:50 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] upgrading Jaws >>>> >>>> Hi All, could anyone tell me how much is it to upgrade Jaws these >>>> days >>>> please, I'm using Jaws V12 pro. 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