[access-uk] Re: rnib start producing products your consumers actually want to buy

  • From: George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:07:44 +0000

Hi Mike,

I'm not trying to defend RNIB, but here is what I have found in a few minutes.

1) Perhaps it is felt that sheets Perkins size, are a better all round option: 
https://shop.rnib.org.uk/braille-and-labelling/labelling/braille-labelling/clear-self-adhesive-labelling-sheets-28-2cm-x-29-2cm.html.
2) They certainly sell the label adaptor for the newer Perkins.  
https://shop.rnib.org.uk/braille-and-labelling/labelling-tape-adaptor-next-generation-perkins.html
  I am surprised that the original is not available in the UK.
3) So why is the tape on their web page at 
https://shop.rnib.org.uk/reading-and-learning/braille/labeling/10-rolls-of-clear-braille-labelling-tape-12mm.html.
  It is also available in many retail and internet outlets.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Mike Ray
Sent: 07 January 2019 14:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: rnib start producing products your consumers actually 
want to buy


IMHO the RNIB have got a lot worse at supplying the things we need, as opposed 
to the things which would be a 'nice to have' and which invariably give them a 
big margin.


Recent things I have bought from the RNIB in the past and now can't get:


1. The CD sized clear sticky labels, square, which can be Brailled upon.


2. The metal Dymo-tape adaptor which fit into old Perkins Braillers.


3. I believe one or two people have even had difficulty buying Dymo tape.


These things are, or should be, viewed as basic essentials.


They would much prefer to sell over-priced hand-cuffs like Dolphin Guide, which 
makes it possible for them to charge a thousand quid for a four hundred quid 
laptop.


The RNIB is run by people who know the price of everything but the value of 
nothing.


Not including the great and hard-working VI members of the telephone team.





On 07/01/2019 13:29, Ibrahim Gucukoglu wrote:

Hi.

Has anyone read the petition?  It is not so much about selling high 
tech solutions and invading on others personal commercial thieftoms, 
but rather making available products that rightly belong in the 
catalogues of RNIB, family products such as board games, picture 
cards, adaptive aids so that people like Phillipa who is a young 
mother with sighted children can engage with their families.  Parental 
activities with children form an important part of any child's 
upbringing and there just aren't enough products in the catalogs of 
suppliers that promote this kind of interaction.  As phillipa states 
in her petition, she has to purchase products from overseas which can 
be time consuming not to mention expensive, especially when you 
consider the implications of Brexit.  I suspect that one of the 
biggest challenges for suppliers of products here is the cost of 
importation and trying to make a profit on a product which relies on 
volume sales; it's a strategy that most suppliers I suspect ju
 st can't afford to take that kind of risk.

All the best, Ibrahim.

From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of 
Karl
Sent: 07 January 2019 11:02
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: rnib start producing products your consumers 
actually want to buy

I'm not trying to be contentious, but do we know that they don't sell 
products that consumers want? Actually I agree with Steve in that part of a 
significant charity like the RNIB's role should be the promotion of the 
private sector who rely on sales rather than trying to do everything when 
they also take donations.
|But maybe I'm wrong.

Karl


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[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 07 January 2019 08:47 AM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: rnib start producing products your consumers 
actually want to buy

I'd rather they didn't to be honest, as a reseller and specialist in the 
products we sell, I'd rather the RNIB signposted, and concentrated on 
services.  They end up selling so many products, that they can't possibly 
know about all of them, whereas smaller businesses can specialise better in 
what they do.

All the best

Steve

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<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> On Behalf Of 
John Gurd (Redacted sender "j.gurd" for DMARC)
Sent: 06 January 2019 22:25
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: rnib start producing products your consumers 
actually want to buy

I've signed it together with over 160 people so far. :)

John


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actually want to buy
Importance: High

thought I would pass on the below change.org petition:
rnib start producing products your consumers actually want to buy 
https://www.change.org/p/royal-national-institute-of-blind-people-rnib
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Simon




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