Simon, Some programs load at start up from the registry in addition to those listed in Start up in the programs menu. I think that if you try Start Up Manager as suggested by Peter, you will understand this better. You can uncheck items listed and re-instate them if you find that you do really need the program in question. Douglas On 25 Jan 2006 at 9:03, goshawk wrote: > thanks for that, have managed to remove 4 of them, but there are at least > another 5 that could go, but are not shown in that menu. have you got any > ideas on how I could remove those ones please? > > Simon > -- Douglas Harrison ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq