Hi Brendan, I am interested in this, because I too am a regular traveller, and I find the National Rail site absolutely fine. I also use http://www.thetrainline.com. I don't really see much inaccessible about either. The only problem with TheTrainLine is the radio buttons they have next to each journey. They are not labelled, but a little ingenuity and a good screen reader and it can be done. Not inaccessible, but this bit is difficult. But Adrian's solution is great because you can set regular journeys as favourites almost. The only thing you would have to change is the date. I don't think just one site is good for anybody, I think different ways of doing it, like this, is healthy. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brendan Magill Sent: 22 February 2007 15:50 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: chuffing good trains times website Hi Adrian, This is a really interesting technical solution, but... Surely we don't need yet another train times site on the Web. What we really ought to have is one site which is accessible to all and which provides information in a simple and straightforward way. This service is presumably linking to the National Rail Journey Planner, but why not make that service accessible in itself? If people who are VI have to use a different site to the one used by most people, what hope is there for full accessibility and integration? I'm not saying the National Rail site is a good model. I'm a regular and frequent train traveller and I find the site useful but pretty awful to use. Cheers, Brendan. -- BRENDAN MAGILL Business, Employment & Disability Consultancy 8 York Place Worcester WR1 3DR England Phone: +44 (0)1905 28286 Fax: +44 (0)870 127 7856 Web: www.magill.co.uk ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq