[access-uk] Re: Your thoughts on access keys on websites?

  • From: Gordon Keen <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:56:15 +0000

By access keys I'm assuming that you are talking about the skip to content or 
skip navigation keys which just work in safari, no problem with voiceover at 
all.

Cheers

G

From glorious Devon, England.
On 23 Mar 2010, at 18:51, Catherine Turner wrote:

> Oh dear, I'm going to throw a spanner in the works.  On the whole, I
> don't used access keys.  However on a couple of sites I use heavily on
> a daily basis I find them useful, and they don't interfere with my
> screen reader.  I use Firefox where you press alt shift key to
> activate the access keys.  I do find them useful and wouldn't want to
> be without them for these specific websites, though yes there are
> alternative ways.  When I use Internet Explorer the access keys rarely
> work properly.  I wonder whether it's possible to keep them and have
> them not interfere with screen readers, but I suspect this is not
> possible since some may use alt shift as keystrokes.  I do think it's
> a shame though, as they are useful, and I wish there was a way of
> implementing them in such a way where the browser could switch them
> on/off as desired so I could have my access keys, and those who don't
> want them can ditch them...
> 
> Catherine
> 
> On 3/23/10, Barry Hill <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I have never successfully used access keys.  Either they interfere with Jaws
>> or they don't take me to the place they are meant to.  I don't like them and
>> don't use them. For me, correct use of headings is much more useful.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Barry
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jonathan
>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:09 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Your thoughts on access keys on websites?
>> 
>> I'm putting the final touches to a section of a site for blind or partially
>> sighted users, with the help of someone from this group who I'm in private
>> email exchange with, and a couple of others giving me advice which has been
>> invaluable.
>> 
>> The users themselves want to know why I wasn't using "access keys" -
>> keyboard navigation through pages by pressing keys on the keyboard.
>> 
>> The RNIB suggest access keys shouldn't be used, or if so, very
>> minimally:
>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/professionals/webaccessibility/designbuild/navigation
>> /Pages/access_tabs.aspx
>> When I got the RNIB to check the last site I did, they also suggested I
>> didn't use access keys.
>> 
>> A working group drafting future specifications on accessible sites also
>> suggest access keys aren't used. And in fact, some browsers don't support
>> them at all now.
>> 
>> However, I thought I'd let this group cast the deciding vote! The users
>> (well, 2 of them) say "yay", the guide says "nay"!
>> 
>> So what are your thoughts on access keys? And as a sub-question, if I were
>> to drop the idea of access keys for site navigation and just use them for
>> navigation of audio playlists, then I would stick the the recommendation of
>> numbers only. What numbers would be easiest? I was thinking 1 for stop, 2
>> for play, 3 for next item (track), 4 for previous track. All thoughts
>> welcome!
>> 
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