[access-uk] Re: Uses for Bluetooth and GPS equipped mobile phones

  • From: "Vanja Sudar" <vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:00:16 -0000

Hi Steve. I do agree that Bluetooth can pause certain security risks. I didn't really think of this. Of course it could be said that you could only accept things from a valid source, for example if you're on a train and something called virgin trains wants to send you something, which in theory shouldn't be harmful since it's sent by the company. However, I could change my phone's name to virgin trains or anything I want to, so you don't really know if it's coming from the real company or someone who's sending you something malicious. Of course because anyone can name their phone to anything they want it's harder to trace if the source is genuine or not. As I said a few times before I accepted messages from o2 when I was in the o2 arena and luckily it genuinely was from o2, but it cold have easily been from someone else.


Having said that, at least at the moment, it's not as easy to get a virus since even if you accept the message, if it's not a simply just a text message or a text note, your phone will ask you more than once via several dialog boxes if you want to install whatever it is someone is sending you. This of course still means though that we should be cautious about what we accept via Bluetooth especially if we are not sure who it's from.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Uses for Bluetooth and GPS equipped mobile phones


Hi Dave,

That would be a big security hole in my view. If you are asked if you want
to download something by Bluetooth and you don't know it is going to come,
don't accept it.  It could be a Symbian or Windows Smart Phone virus.  I
have had that very thing happen to me on a train, when I left Bluetooth on
once by accident.  I said no to the connection, but I sure wouldn't like
this method to be widely adopted.  It could encourage all kinds of malice,
and Bluetooth isn't secure anyway.  I even heard of a program that can
hijack all your contacts from your phone, just because you left Bluetooth
on.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ankers, Dave (UK)
Sent: 30 January 2008 15:36
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Uses for Bluetooth and GPS equipped mobile phones


This  thread is a carry over from the off track virgin train saga.

Seems easy to me, walk in a Shop, Restaurant, Train, Hospital even, and
receive a message asking if you would like to download a file by Bluetooth.
It could be a list of items on special offer, a menu or even directions in
order to get to the department you want in a hospital or any other large
building.
Take it a stage further and install transmitters in buildings, that your GPS or GPRS, whatever the difference is. can use to direct you to where you wish
to go.

Dave

There are ways to send messages to any Bluetooth devices in an area.
Some companies already experimented with this by sending advertisements to
any Bluetooth devices. For example when I went to see snow patrol in the o2
arena when I turned Bluetooth on my phone I got sent some messages about
other events that they thought might interest me by o2.
Vanja
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:32 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Virgin Trains thread that went off track!


Scuse my ignorance on wireless communication, but Dave suggests using
Blue Tooth as a means of getting menus, passenger info, etc. to
passengers, and in the context of our needs.

Would this actually be Blue Tooth, or maybe Wi-Fi?  Either way, if it
would work, then seems a good idea to me;  but am I missing something
here?

Cheers,

From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
Ankers, Dave (UK)
Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Virgin Trains thread that went off track!



Please accept my apologies too.  Will try to stay on topic, only life
would be so boring without a bit of harmless banter and imagination.
Back on topic, hands up all those who own a phone equipped with
Bluetooth! yes loads of you, well, what if the train companies and
many other companies for that matter, made available Bluetooth
downloads of menus and other services so you could hear them through
your phone, and it cost nothing.

Dave

My sincere apologies everyone for the banter between a few of us
today, of which I was a part, that went off track in the midst of a
thread about Virgin Trains.  Nice though it is to share a bit of
harmless fun on an otherwise extremely dreary day, I appreciate this
is a list for access technology and, as such, should remain on topic
at all times.

Hands up! sorry! (smiles).

Jackie


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