Hi Kevin. That was indeed the site I was thinking of. I wonder if this card would do for ID purposes instead of a passport? It is certainly cheaper. Cheers graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:21 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: THE TOSHIBA SAGA (LONG SO HIT DEL IF YOU WISH) - was Re: Re: GETTING READY AND EXCITED hi graham, a lot of airlines will accept this card on internal flights now. go to: http://www.citizencard.com/ kevin (lord L) "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." - will durant email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:56 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: THE TOSHIBA SAGA (LONG SO HIT DEL IF YOU WISH) - was Re: Re: GETTING READY AND EXCITED > Carol, I don't think that it is unreasonable that you have to prove you are > who you say you are. Maybe in fact it is your fault for losing your > passport, your one means of identification. > > On the other side of the argument, however, you say you and the driver knew > each other. How does the driver prove he has in fact seen your passport? > Maybe he could have been a bit more flexible. > > If the government had handled things differently, we could have had a > voluntary ID card scheme in place but that is not likely to be a possibility > now any time soon. > > If you don't fly or go abroad you probably don't have a passport so it may > be difficult for you to produce ID. I am sure I read about some kind of > Euro Citizens ID card that companies such as Easyjet would accept. This > only cost about £10 but I can't find a reference to it using Google. This > is photo ID so if the card still exists, it should be good enough for > Cittylink. > > Cheers > > Graham > > One option, which I know is acceptable by airlines, is the > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:38 PM > Subject: [access-uk] THE TOSHIBA SAGA (LONG SO HIT DEL IF YOU WISH) - was > Re: Re: GETTING READY AND EXCITED > > > OK, Ray, I thought Toshiba were the greatest too! . . .. > Here goes, then, with my story! > > I scoured the internet for a month or two before settling on a Toshiba > Satellite Pro A120SE in late September. I looked carefully at the specs, > not wanting to spend money on changing JAWS so rejecting anything but XP > Home to be sure everything would/should work well! This narrowed my search > somewhat all round in fact because I discovered that (in general) many of > the cheaper range computers offered are with XP Home but, increasingly, more > are being sold with Windows XP Professional and with other slight variations > on Windows XP. . .. Finally I had my model and, as I could only find the > exact match in a couple of places, decided to go for it and order, via > Toshiba from their agreed seller, which in this case was Ingram Micro. (Big > Mistake!) > > I was given some of the blurb about the user of the card having to live at > the same address as the goods being ordered and thought that was fine. > However, I wasn't told all of the story: The computer arrived promptly, > being delivered by one of my lesser favourite couriers, City Link. I know > them quite well though and even knew the delivery man when he arrived. He > asked for the cardholder to produce his driving licence or passport (no > alternatives appeared acceptable) in person and also to sign the sheet as > required. Well, Mike was at work, we didn't at that time know where to > locate the passports easily and had little sighted help available to us for > some days. The driver refused to either leave the laptop with us or to call > his depot again, saying he'd already discussed the matter before leaving, > knowing that he was coming to us and that they had to abide by the company's > (in this case Ingram Micro's) stipulations! Well, I almost had my hands on > that computer, yes, almost, and could in fact have taken it from him whilst > pretending to get Mike! > > Yes, it went back and then commenced the battle which is not yet totally > over! First, I spent all morning the following day ringing Ingram Micro and > couldn't get a telephone answered anywhere, anyway. I decided not to put up > with this and contacted the sales person at Toshiba with whom I had placed > the order. He followed it through and was eventually told that they were > their rules and no way would they change them. They would agree to the > computer remaining in the depot for a few days to allow us time to find the > relevant documents; but by that time I really didn't want to do that and, > besides, we still had no way of finding them within the next week or so, > until friends were well and truly back in the swing of things after various > times away. With reluctance, therefore, we started the battle of getting > our money back from Toshiba, or rather from Ingram Micro via Toshiba. (I > was not going to try to call them again and waste my time.) > > Some days went by before we learned the computer, supposedly, had gone > missing from City Link's depot! (Surprise, surprise!) They therefore > wouldn't refund us . . . then suddenly the computer had turned up and > eventually we were told the money would show back in our account in a > further ten working days. Well, that long! <GRRR!> > > I was also told that Toshiba had now changed that model (as they apparently > do every month or two) and so it was no longer available but they would tell > me when something else came out that may be suitable. They did tell me, but > of course, it didn't have XP Home and they wouldn't install it for me! > > Eventually we did get most of the money back, but they had taken out a > charge which we later tracked down to being for delivery. No, they weren't > getting away with that either! Finally we have had a promise that this will > also be refunded, but we have yet to see it. > > Despite my discussions with Toshiba about their lack of information about > the terms of purchase when I arranged to buy and the fact that they haven't > come up with a suitable alternative, they refuse to help any further and, > with great annoyance, I've closed the door on that one! > > We have been staggered at these rather over-cautious safety arrangements and > certainly consider it unfair that totally blind people have to be put in > this position. We almost ended up with the Disability Rights Commission and > I'm certainly "off Toshiba" right now! > > I searched and searched again and finally ended up going Roger's route and > buying a very light weight DELL, albeit that the price was a fair bit more > and there were a number of hassles in placing that order which I won't cover > here! With a back problem, I just hope I've perhaps done myself a bit of a > favour! > > I'm also hoping now that we really can enjoy the new laptop with not too > many more problems, but no doubt I'll be writing for advice here and there > as I get things set up - so watch this space! > > If you've read to the end and can at least identify with all that's gone on > and feel a sense of annoyance at the lengths some companies are going to in > order to guard themselves regardless of the cost and inconvenience to the > customer, then I'm glad I told the story. If you were bored then I can only > apologise that you didn't press that DEL key <Smile> > > Goodnight to all! > > -- > Carol > carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ NOD32 1.1853 (20061103) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ NOD32 1.1854 (20061106) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq