[access-uk] Re: - RNIB Branding
- From: "Norman Waddington" <normanwaddington504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 19:37:00 -0000
Hi Paul,
They are very short sighted if I may use the phrase!
Surely people would willingly give to the blind not loss of sight or visually
impaired. To the public a blind person is a blind person! What about the
people who have never had any sight to loose? We know loads of them.
Norman.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Paul Leake
Sent: 27 March 2015 18:17
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: - RNIB Branding
Ian,
I suspect this is all about getting more money in and playing to
community who lose sight late in life in the hope that they will
leave bequests to RNIB and stuff the needs of the totally blind
community - we are a minority so how much do we count?
It should be that there anyone within the blind and/or partially
sighted community should be entitled to equality of treatment and
this should not be hierarchicalised! It's all about spin and
superficiality rather than accuracy of identifying more complex
issues!
Sorry for the rant, and it's the beginning of the weekend too!
Kind regards,
Paul
Twitter: @paulleake1
paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: Ian Macrae <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:39:26 +0000
Subject: [access-uk] Re: - RNIB Branding
As I have pointed out on several other occasions, I was born with
cataracts over my eyes which meant I had no sight at all.
Therefore, in the interests of accuracy, though not of my
personal identity, I should be called a person with sight gain.
For many of us, blindness is as much part of who we are as
ethnicity is: in my case I definitely feel more blind than I do
white British or whatever the current terminology is. If the
organisation which purports to represent and ?쐓upport??me
fails to recognise that then it fails to have any relevance for
me or my life. This is one reason why I?셫 not and will never
become a member of RNIB.
On 27 Mar 2015, at 12:29, Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Thanks David,
Where is the right forum to take this forward. My parting shot
on this subject is that I once caught an RNIB spokesperson on In
Touch referring to: "people born with sight loss"! I'd have fired
him. They promoted him.
Best,
Clive
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On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 27 March 2015 12:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
Well isn't it the od Political Correctness?
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From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 12:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
I must say that although in my case I have had sight loss I
agree with
every thing said below and cannot understand why the RNIB could
ever have
thought that it is an appropriate term to generically describe
us all.
I think some genuine issues for concern have been raised. Maybe
an online
petition along the lines of the arguments below would be
appropriate as
there has not been a positive process of consultation as to the
terminology/branding in our name.
David Griffith
On 27/03/2015 10:57, Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Thanks Jackie.
I think the re-branding from 'blind and partially-sighted
people" to
"people with sight loss" is a significant step in the wrong
direction,
but it confirms what many of us have thought for a long time -
that they
are really not interested in the blind.
1. As I was born with roughly the amount of sight I have,
when I
read that, my gut instinct says: "Do they mean me? They surely
don't!"
2. It leads to muddled thinking, in which some politicians
now
think that congenitally blind people don't need financial
support because
they have learned to cope throughout their lives...then the RNIB
criticises the politician for making such a crass statement,
when it's
only the product of the seeds they have sown.
3. And most importantly, in the spirit of "nothing about
us without
us", I don't recall the RNIB asking people whether they wanted
to be
feferred to as 'having, experiencing, or even suffering' sight
loss, so
the term smacks of being foisted upon us by sighted do-gooders.
I wonder where is the best place to air these views and open the
debate.
I know for certain that the profoundly Deaf community wouldn't
put up
with this type of nonsense.
Best,
Clive
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On Behalf
Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 27 March 2015 10:50
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
Hi Clive
There is some rebranding going on as RNIB now has this RNIB
Approved
feature as well.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
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Sent: 27 March 2015 10:34
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Subject: [access-uk] Off-topic - RNIB Branding
Hi all,
I'm not expecting a discussion here, but please can anyone tell
me off
list when the strap-line on RNIB's web pages changed from:
"Supporting Blind and Partially-Sighted People" to:
"Supporting People with Sight Loss". The supplementary question
is:
Why?
Best,
Clive
Clive Lever
Diversity and Equality Officer
Kent County Council
Office: 03000 416388
Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Kent County Council
Room G37
Sessions House
Maidstone, Kent.
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