Hi Jackie, I have a victor Vibe, but it's basically an MP3/daisy CD player. I think you may be able to plug SD cards into it, but you need a very big poacher's pocket to port it around with you. Someone has also mentioned Archos, but I'm not sure if this will work by copying and pasting. Some people have been advising me that the Creative Zen Stone isn't made anymore. It seems to me that there are a lot of myths circulating on the subject of portable players. Is the discontinuation of Zen Stone one of them? Thanks in advance, Clive Clive Lever Diversity Advisor 01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House, County Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ. Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference for the benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 08 November 2010 13:31 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portable players Hi Clive I appreciate your frustrations and, to a very large extent, agree with them. I used to use an Iriver H340 which allowed you to simply copy and paste from one drive to another within Windows Explorer. I don't know if there are any cheaper brands on the market that will let you do that. As you say, all the Apple products require you to use iTunes, and the specialist devices will let you use Windows Explorer to copy and paste, but are expensive just for music. I thought the RNIB had one called the Vibe or something, but I've never seen it, know next to nothing about it, and think it is still expensive from what I hear. Perhaps the Zenstone users among you could help? Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 08 November 2010 13:23 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Portable players Hi all, I'm now beginning to think that the Apple ITunes programme and IPods may not be for me. I can't run to a Victor player upwards of £200 at present. Are there any portable players out there which : are Easy for a VI person to use; don't rely on syncing from within complex computer programmes but instead let you copy and paste mp3 files from your computer to your portable device; have at least 4gb storage capacity, or play music stored on SD cards. I've heard it said that all portable players need you to sync from your computer through ITunes, Windows Media Player or whatever. I've heard other people say that this is nonsense. #so, does the device I want actually exist? Thanks, Clive Clive Lever Diversity Advisor 01622 221163 (extension 7000 1163) Room 1.15, Sessions House, County Hall, Maidstone, ME14 1XQ. Diversity is a strength and we will value and harness difference for the benefit of all service users, the individual and KCC. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.864 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3243 - Release Date: 11/07/10 19:34:00 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq