Thanks Barbara, I am on a couple of the second hand selling lists so might try it if I decide on a particular product. Have to say the Jot a Dot seems far more useful than a Perkins for what I want to do with it, though. And the price is much more appealing for that matter!! Mark Threadgold Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my mind... -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 18 July 2009 14:57 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers Mark, have you tried the second hand lists for someone with a perkins they don't want any more? Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers > So thanks for the debate on the price, guys, but are there any other > similar > devices out there?! I have found several others on the web but cannot > find > anything in the uk for comparison or price etc. > > Regards, > > > > Mark Threadgold > > Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my mind... > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > john coley > Sent: 18 July 2009 14:09 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers > > Hi Derek, I likewise got my perkins years ago for a fraction of its > current > price. Although I'm with you to a degree on the supply and demand thing > they > > nevertheless have a world wide monopoly, something that other companies > don't have. Like you I paid hundreds of pounds for my first printer back > in > 92, and my current one was only 50, but look at the tiny share of the > printer market each company's got. > Another thing to consider is that unlike high tech equipment, which has > evolved over the years, driven by competition, and so have ongoing > research > and development costs the perkins, a low tech thing is just the same as it > was when they started. > Even the new look model, which they brought out a year or so ago is the > same old low tech. If it wasn't for the fact that if people want a braille > writer they have to buy a perkins the price would be a fraction of what it > is. At least now we have access to other formats, we don't need to use > braille. > There is also the possibility that the grossly inflated price has cut > demand. > John. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:01 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Perkins and other Braillers > > > Hi John > I agree with you partly! However, could price not depend on Supply and > demand! The more the demand for a product, the lower The production costs > would be. > > When I bought my HP laser printer about 15 or so years ago it cost me > About £700 but now one can buy a good laser jet for about £100 or just > over. > So why the price drop? > Because the demand is far higher now! > > So as for the Perkins, the demand is far lower now, that will Push up > production costs. > > Anyway, my perkins cost about £14 pounds! > It was given to me by my mum over 40 years ago! > And still works great. > > Regards, Derek > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.14/2238 - Release Date: 07/14/09 > 18:03:00 > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4256 (20090718) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq