Hi Mark, I've been following this thread, and would like to comment that, although I haven't used a jot a dot, I've seen one in use, as my wife, Carol has one and uses it for making notes in Braille. The only drawback with the jot a dot, in my opinion at least, is the fact that it doesn't use the same size of paper as the Perkins, so it's OK if you want to make short notes or write lists, but if you wanted to write a Perkins size page of Braille on a jot a dot, I don't think that would work, as it would take up more than one page of the size of paper used for the jot a dot. Alexander Shannon ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq