Hi,
So just to clarify here, as I'm now getting very confused.
Thanks again,
Thank you, Roger. If only YOU understand my message, it will have been worth it.
George.
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Hi George and Barry
I've always wondered what Conversation actually meant in email context. Now after reading the posts today I notbe aknow but also know how guilty I've been for doing exactly what I'm not supposed to do. I'll remember and in future instead of changing the subject line as I always do I'llSubject naminggood boy and start a new post.
Roger
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.
----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more:thread
> For the benefit of those who are wondering what thisI> is all about, (and some of those who do) let my try to > explain. Andrew has mentioned some of what follows, butlearned> feel that perhaps a simpler explanation might help. > > (And sorry if this is a long message, but I too have> a few new things today about how to manage mail frome-mailsort> lists.) > > Most e-mail software packages these days allow you to> messages in one way or another. This might, forexample, beare of> by date received or by sender. > > However, there are two specific sorting methods which> concern here, Subject and what is called either,"Thread"reply> or, "Conversation". > > So how do these two work? > > When you send a completely new message to the list, you > (hopefully) include a meaningful Subject. > > If someone replies to your message, many (but not all) > e-mail systems will add additional information to the> called a, "Thread-Topic" to the bit of the message youdoto> not usually see, called the "Header". This is normally > whatever was in the Subject line of the new message you > sent. > > Once this, "Thread-Topic" Header has been added to a > message, it essentially CANNOT be changed when you replybut> that message - at least not easily. > > Someone may change the SUBJECT in a reply to a message,is> that "Thread-Topic" will stay the same. > > Now in Outlook for example, one of the sorting options> "Conversation", and it is actually the, "Thread-Topic"which"Conversation" or> is used to sort messages. > > But Outlook also includes a sort by, "Subject". > > So why have these two sorts, "Subject" andon> "Thread"? > > I'm afraid it's one of these things that was probably > decided by Internet boffins way back. > > Let's say you start a new conversation or thread, > "Supermarket Web Pages", asking if anyone has any views"Morrison's> them. > > One person might reply, and leave the Subject as is. > > Someone else might reply, and change the subject to, > "Tesco's Web Site". > > Another may reply, and change the subject to,all> Web Site". > > If you have your mail sorted by Conversation or Thread,get> four messages above will be grouped together. > > If you have your messages sorted by Subject, you willmessages,> THREE groups of messages. > > Are you following me so far? > > So then I jump in, and reply to ANY of the above> and change the subject to, shall we say, "InternetBanking".for> > That's fine for those who have sorted by Subject, but> those who have sorted by Conversation, or Thread, theynowthis> find a message about "Internet Banking" in amongst the > "Supermarket Web Pages" messages. > > So the bottom line is that we are asking, as nicely as > possible, if you would spare a minute to think aboutstarting> when you are posting to the list. > > Are you really replying to the Subject, or are you> a new conversation or thread? If it's NEW, please hitthethem> NEW button instead of REPLY. > > If you have got this far - thank you. > > If you have any specific questions, I'll try to answerlink:-> as best I can. > > George bell. > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following> **[mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]on the> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, clickfaq> ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:-link:->
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