[access-uk] Re: KNFB reader on a Nokia cell phone

  • From: "ron sears" <r.sears1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:43:40 -0000

Jackie, is the six week milestone an upgrade to the one sold by RNIB? smile

Cheers

Ron
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marie Baisez" <baisez.marie@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB reader on a Nokia cell phone


how nice to have a bit of banter on this list! cheers up a dreary winter 
day! Thanks all...
Marie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB reader on a Nokia cell phone


> Well Dave mate, if your suggestion of human description on the K-NFB 
> camera could work right now, it would say: "That Jackie has got a horrible 
> pair of knee-length white support socks on under her jeans.  On the heel 
> of her socks J Cairns is written in black marker.  What a bloody sight." 
> Ah! but she's got one more day and then those socks can be discarded 
> forever and ever because, the six-week milestone will have been reached. 
> Might advertise them on Ebay (lol).
>
> Yes, your idea leaves a lot to the imagination matey (smiles).  Now go 
> have a cold shower and cool down!!!!
>
> Jackie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:48 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB reader on a Nokia cell phone
>
>
>> Jackie,
>>
>> A Devil ey, well sticks and stones may brake my bones, but whips and
>> chains excite me lol.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Hmmm.  Dave you're a devil (smile).  I could think of one or two
>> recipients for your suggestion (lol).
>>
>> Jackie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:03 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB reader on a Nokia cell phone
>>
>>
>>> Jackie,
>>>
>>> Glad you found it funny, the interesting bit would be entering the
>>> criteria into the phone so it can decide whether or not you find the
>>> person attractive or not.
>>> I've no doubt you have heard of Mr Honest, well there's Mr Purvy too!
>>> he's also blind, and one of his ideas to enable him to detect when a
>>> woman is interested in him, is to have manufactured, women's underwear
>>> incorporating the device he uses to stop him overfilling his coffee
>> mug.
>>> It buzzes and vibrates! So when he has the right effect, he gets an
>>> audible cue, and she gets an even bigger smile lol
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Well Dave I must admit you've given me a good laugh here over your
>>> suggestion.  Who knows, perhaps one day something like that could be
>>> invented.  The way technology is progressing, anything is possible.
>> But
>>> just imagine getting on a train or bus, and your little companion
>>> whispers in your ear: "Blimey.  Steer well clear.  Looks like the back
>>> end of a bus."
>>> or: "She's a stunner mate, fill your boots." (lol).
>>>
>>> But being a bit more serious for a sec, I must admit this would be
>> very
>>> useful if the price is sensible.
>>>
>>> Jackie
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:34 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB reader on a Nokia cell phone
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now I like the sound of this!, only can it be programmed to recognise
>>>> attractive women and read their facial expressions, discreetly of
>>> course
>>>> lol.  It's so damn annoying when work colleagues say "she's nice",
>> and
>>>> all I can say is, "was she".  I hate being in company and not knowing
>>> if
>>>> someone is actually looking, and maybe smiling at me, and would love
>>> to
>>>> chat, but because I cannot see their expression, I have no idea.  I'm
>>>> sure many others feel the same.
>>>> Just imagine a blind date club! lol all pointing mobile phones at
>> each
>>>> other! Smile when your phone says "She's nice".
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> I'm posting the following which I received from another list.    big
>>>> flash from the big R.
>>>> Begin forwarded text.
>>>> BALTIMORE (AP) - Chris Danielsen fidgets with the cell phone, holding
>>> it
>>>> over a $20 bill.
>>>> "Detecting orientation, processing U.S. currency image," the phone
>>> says
>>>> in a flat monotone before Danielsen snaps a photo. A few seconds
>>> later,
>>>> the phone says, "Twenty dollars."
>>>> Danielsen, a spokesman for the National Federation of the Blind, is
>>>> holding the next generation of computerized aids for the blind and
>>>> visually impaired.
>>>> The Nokia cell phone is loaded with software that turns text on
>>>> photographed documents into speech. In addition to telling whether a
>>>> bill is worth $1, $5, $10 or $20, it also allows users to read
>>> anything
>>>> that is photographed, whether it's a restaurant menu, a phone book or
>>> a
>>>> fax.
>>>> While the technology is not new, the NFB and the software's developer
>>>> say the cell phone is the first to incorporate the text-to-speech
>>>> ability.
>>>> "We've had reading devices before," Danielsen said, noting similar
>>>> software is already available in a larger handheld reader housed in a
>>>> personal digital assistant. Companies such as Code Factory SL,
>> Dolphin
>>>> Computer Access Ltd. and Nuance Communications Inc. also provide
>>>> software that allows the blind to use cell phones and PDAs.
>>>> Inexpensive hand-held scanners such as WizCom Technologies Ltd.'s
>>>> SuperPen can scan limited amounts of text, read it aloud and even
>>>> translate from other languages.
>>>> However, the $2,100 NFB device combines all of those functions in one
>>>> smart phone, said James Gashel, vice president of business
>> development
>>>> for K-NFB Reading Technology Inc., which is marketing the phone as a
>>>> joint venture between the federation and software developer Ray
>>>> Kurzweil.
>>>> "It is the next step, but this is a huge leap," Gashel, who is blind,
>>>> said in a telephone interview. "I'm talking to you on the device I
>>> also
>>>> use to read things. I can put it in my pocket and at the touch of a
>>>> button, in 20 seconds, be reading something I need to read in print."
>>>> Ray Kurzweil, who developed the first device that could convert text
>>>> into audio in the 1970s and the current NFB device, said portability
>>> is
>>>> only the first step. Future versions of the device will recognize
>>> faces,
>>>> identify rooms and translate text from other languages for the blind
>>> and
>>>> the sighted.
>>>> The inventor plans to begin marketing the cell phone in February
>>> through
>>>> K-NFB Reading Technology. The software will cost $1,595 and the cell
>>>> phone is expected to cost about $500, Kurzweil said.
>>>> Dave Doermann, president of College Park-based Applied Media Analysis
>>>> said his company is working on similar software for smart phones that
>>>> could be used by the military for translation and by the visually
>>>> impaired.
>>>> "We don't anticipate ours being that expensive, but unfortunately
>>> we're
>>>> not quite to the release yet," said Doermann, who is also co-director
>>> of
>>>> the University of Maryland's Laboratory for Language and Media
>>>> Processing.
>>>> Doermann said the company, which has received funding from the
>>>> Department of Defense and the National Eye Institute, hopes to have
>>> its
>>>> software ready in the next 12 to 18 months.
>>>> Kurzweil's device uses speech software provided by Nuance, said Chris
>>>> Strammiello, the director of product management at Nuance, who said
>>> the
>>>> company has also developed a prototype reader that uses the Internet
>>> to
>>>> access more powerful server-side computers.
>>>> "As you can harness the power of remote environments and do that so
>>>> quickly with the Web technologies, it gives a lot more capability,
>>>> flexibility and options to the way you solve these type of problems,"
>>>> Strammiello said.
>>>> There are about 10 million blind and visually impaired people in the
>>>> U.S., a number that is expected to double in the next 30 years as
>> baby
>>>> boomers age.
>>>> Kurzweil said those with vision problems are not the only ones
>>> expected
>>>> to benefit from the technology. Dyslexics, for example, are expected
>>> to
>>>> be among the users of the current device because of its ability to
>>>> highlight each word as it's read aloud, helping them cope with their
>>>> disability, which affects the ability to read. The highlighting
>>> function
>>>> can also help them improve their reading skills, he said.
>>>> "What's new here is both blind people and kids can do this with a
>>> device
>>>> that fits in their shirt pocket," Kurzweil said.
>>>> Marc Maurer, president of the National Federation of the Blind, said
>>> the
>>>> device and its PDA predecessor are a "form of hand-held vision" that
>>>> will make the visual environment "much more readily available to the
>>>> blind."
>>>>
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