[access-uk] Re: Jim Dale
- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:05:25 +0100
Gosh! I expect Jim's greatly relieved to know he is alive and well :] Hmmmm!
I wonder where I got that one from then? - Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Caroline Ford" <caroline@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:09 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jim Dale
| Andy,
|
| According to a friend of mine in the US, Jim Dale is going to host a
release
| party in New York for the new Harry Potter book in July. He will be
reading
| extracts from the six existing books for a couple of hours leading up to
| midnight, and will then lead a countdown to the release of the new book.
| This information apparently came from an official Harry Potter web site.
|
| So it seems that rumours of Jim's death are greatly exaggerated!
|
| Caroline.
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
| Of Andy Collins
| Sent: 31 May 2007 17:54
| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jim Dale
|
|
| Roger, I'm pretty sure I heard about his death last year, and did wonder
| what would happen with the next HP book. Don't think I dreamt it, but you
| never know <smile> - Andy
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:49 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Jim Dale was - new accessible mp3 player
|
|
|| Hi Andy
||
|| I hadn't heard that and looking on the web there is no mention of it at
| all.
||
|| Roger
||
|| Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
||
||
|| ----- Original Message -----
|| From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:06 PM
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
||
||
|| > Roger - Him being dead could be a stumbling block :] - Andy
|| > ----- Original Message -----
|| > From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
|| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:34 PM
|| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
|| >
|| >
|| > | Hi Andy
|| > |
|| > | Why do you think Jim Dale won't read the new book? If the money is
| right
|| > I'm
|| > | sure he will.
|| > |
|| > | Roger
|| > |
|| > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
|| > |
|| > |
|| > | ----- Original Message -----
|| > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:27 PM
|| > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
|| > |
|| > |
|| > | > To be honest, I have prefered the Jim Dale readings, but JK is
going
|| > to
|| > | > have
|| > | > a problem getting him to read the new book! :]
|| > | >
|| > | > I'm always pleased to hear of improvements, and it does sound like
| the
|| > | > RNIB
|| > | > library will have improved from the change in law, but what about
|| > their
|| > | > thousands of old recordings, have they been dropped? I would expect
|| > not -
|| > | > Andy
|| > | > ----- Original Message -----
|| > | > From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:45 PM
|| > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
|| > | >
|| > | >
|| > | > |J K Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter books, stipulated the
|| > audio
|| > | > | versions must be read by Stephen Fry in the UK and Jim Dale in
the
|| > US.
|| > | > To
|| > | > my
|| > | > | knowledge no other versions are available at all.
|| > | > |
|| > | > | Out of interest to Andy the RNIB books are now all read by
|| > professional
|| > | > | readers. Mainly actors but also news readers and disc jockeys.
|| > People
|| > | > who
|| > | > | use their voices in their profession and therefore have more
| control
|| > of
|| > | > the
|| > | > | tones used.
|| > | > |
|| > | > | I have a very severe hearing loss, 97/98%, so quality sound is
|| > vitally
|| > | > | important to me but I don't often have problems with either the
| RNIB
|| > or
|| > | > the
|| > | > | CALIBRE books which are the ones recorded in the later years. I
|| > | > understand
|| > | > | they both once used volunteers who may have been a little lacking
|| > but
|| > | > those
|| > | > | days are long gone.
|| > | > |
|| > | > | Roger
|| > | > |
|| > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
|| > | > |
|| > | > |
|| > | > | ----- Original Message -----
|| > | > | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | > | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:31 PM
|| > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
|| > | > |
|| > | > |
|| > | > | > Andy, and further to Iain's comment, the version sold by RNIB
| will
|| > | > | > indeed be the Stephen Fry reading of HP. You see RNIB is
| allowed
|| > to
|| > | > | > DAISIFY commercial books since the changes in copyright law.
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > Cheers,
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > From Ray
|| > | > | > I can be contacted off-list at:
|| > | > | > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > -----Original Message-----
|| > | > | > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
|| > | > | > Behalf
|| > | > | > Of Iain Lackie
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > Books in the RNIB talking book library are not read by some
| bloke
|| > they
|| > | > | > have
|| > | > | > dragged in offf the streets.
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > Iain
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > ----- Original Message -----
|| > | > | > From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > Ah! but is the RNIB daisy recording of the new HP narrated by
|| > Stephen
|| > | > | > Frye,
|| > | > | > or some bloke they've dragged in off the street as with other
of
|| > their
|| > | > | > 'recordings? :] - Andy
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > ----- Original Message -----
|| > | > | > From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| > | > | > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:28 PM
|| > | > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | >
|| > | > | > | Roger, I can agree with you about the mark up generally
| applied
|| > to
|| > | > | > | specialist stuff for us, and almost expected by them as of
|| > right.
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Harry Potter audio version? A bit different, or so I
contend.
|| > | > | > First
|| > | > | > | off Stephen Fry won't be paid peanuts for his commercial
|| > recording
|| > | > | > of
|| > | > | > | it, plus paying for studio time, art work, distribution etc.
|| > | > | > Visually
|| > | > | > | impaired people are not the only audience either for these
|| > books.
|| > | > | > OK,
|| > | > | > | so this is a popular title that will be bought by many
| thousands
|| > of
|| > | > | > | people, but don't forget that public libraries are a
| gaurantteed
|| > | > | > | market for audio book producers, and like a good bit of
access
|| > tech
|| > | > | > | sales, the price can be wound up to soak the big buyers at a
|| > price
|| > | > | > | that couldn't be got otherwise.
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Synical though that view just (might) be, these are the
|| > realities
|| > as
|| > | > | > I
|| > | > | > | see them. This said, audio books, particularly unabridged
| ones,
|| > are
|| > | > | > | always going to be more exspensive than print versions. The
|| > only
|| > | > | > way
|| > | > | > | this reality can be broken is with the sort of subsidy that
| RNIB
|| > as
|| > | > | > a
|| > | > | > | charity can bring into play when it sells the small number of
|| > | > | > talking
|| > | > | > | books that it does. There Roger, as a blind person, is your
|| > way
|| > | > | > out
|| > | > | > | of getting the latest HP at a similar price to your print
book
|| > | > | > buying
|| > | > | > | genral public. Buy a DAISY version of the latest HP from
| RNIB.
|| > (No
|| > | > | > | commission on that sale, unfortunately.) No wonder I've
never
|| > made
|| > | > | > it
|| > | > | > | in the big bad world of business!
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Cheers,
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | From Ray
|| > | > | > | I can be contacted off-list at:
|| > | > | > | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
|| > | > | > | -----Original Message-----
|| > | > | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
|| > | > | > | Behalf Of roger south
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | I do understand the Milestone and the BC have more functions
| but
|| > not
|| > | > | > | as ;;many as costing £200 more. I'm a firm believer in the
|| > | > | > | manufacturers see the disabled as a means of making more
money
|| > with
|| > | > | > | the equipment we need. I'm convinced there is a price cartel
|| > that
|| > | > | > | keeps the price up because then we can't go elsewhere.
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | When something like the Zen Stone comes along it emphasises
| just
|| > | > | > that
|| > | > | > | point. Look at the price of audio books. The new Harry Potter
| is
|| > | > | > | priced I believe at £85. I will be able to buy a print copy a
|| > few
|| > | > | > days
|| > | > | > | after the release on the 21 July for around £8.99 if previous
|| > books
|| > | > | > | are anything to go by. But for the sake of a few CD's at
| around
|| > 8
|| > | > | > | pence each and the box to put it in we'll say a fiver I have
| to
|| > pay
|| > | > | > | £85. Now if that isn't ripping off the disabled what is. The
|| > same
|| > is
|| > | > | > | true of the players you mentioned but I'm climbing on my
| soapbox
|| > so
|| > | > | > | I'll shut up now.
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Roger
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | ----- Original Message -----
|| > | > | > | From: Ian Macrae
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Makes you wonder why the milestone is so expensive
| comparatively
|| > | > | > | dunnit. any views?
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
|| > On
|| > | > | > | Behalf Of roger south
|| > | > | > | Sent: 30 May 2007 11:15
|| > | > | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| > | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | I've ordered one of these from Amazon at £27.99 plus p & p
|| > totalling
|| > | > | > | altogether £30.12. It arrives tomorrow and sounds from the
|| > write-ups
|| > | > | > | very good. But at that price if it's not what I want I can
| give
|| > it
|| > | > | > | away as a present and not lose any sleep.
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Roger
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | ----- Original Message -----
|| > | > | > | From: Adrian Higginbotham
|| > | > | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| > | > | > | Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:50 AM
|| > | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] new accessible mp3 player
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Just read about the upcoming release of a new screenless
| audible
|| > | > | > | compatible mp3 player, at under £30 for 1gg version. and no
|| > | > | > | proprietory software like Itunes, just use it like any USB
|| > drive.
|| > | > | > | http://accessbrit.wordpress.com/
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > |
|| > | > | > | Adrian Higginbotham
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