[access-uk] Re: Jim Dale
- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 17:54:14 +0100
Roger, I'm pretty sure I heard about his death last year, and did wonder
what would happen with the next HP book. Don't think I dreamt it, but you
never know <smile> - Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:49 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Jim Dale was - new accessible mp3 player
| Hi Andy
|
| I hadn't heard that and looking on the web there is no mention of it at
all.
|
| Roger
|
| Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:06 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
|
|
| > Roger - Him being dead could be a stumbling block :] - Andy
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:34 PM
| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| >
| >
| > | Hi Andy
| > |
| > | Why do you think Jim Dale won't read the new book? If the money is
right
| > I'm
| > | sure he will.
| > |
| > | Roger
| > |
| > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
| > |
| > |
| > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:27 PM
| > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| > |
| > |
| > | > To be honest, I have prefered the Jim Dale readings, but JK is going
| > to
| > | > have
| > | > a problem getting him to read the new book! :]
| > | >
| > | > I'm always pleased to hear of improvements, and it does sound like
the
| > | > RNIB
| > | > library will have improved from the change in law, but what about
| > their
| > | > thousands of old recordings, have they been dropped? I would expect
| > not -
| > | > Andy
| > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > | > From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:45 PM
| > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > |J K Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter books, stipulated the
| > audio
| > | > | versions must be read by Stephen Fry in the UK and Jim Dale in the
| > US.
| > | > To
| > | > my
| > | > | knowledge no other versions are available at all.
| > | > |
| > | > | Out of interest to Andy the RNIB books are now all read by
| > professional
| > | > | readers. Mainly actors but also news readers and disc jockeys.
| > People
| > | > who
| > | > | use their voices in their profession and therefore have more
control
| > of
| > | > the
| > | > | tones used.
| > | > |
| > | > | I have a very severe hearing loss, 97/98%, so quality sound is
| > vitally
| > | > | important to me but I don't often have problems with either the
RNIB
| > or
| > | > the
| > | > | CALIBRE books which are the ones recorded in the later years. I
| > | > understand
| > | > | they both once used volunteers who may have been a little lacking
| > but
| > | > those
| > | > | days are long gone.
| > | > |
| > | > | Roger
| > | > |
| > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:31 PM
| > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | > Andy, and further to Iain's comment, the version sold by RNIB
will
| > | > | > indeed be the Stephen Fry reading of HP. You see RNIB is
allowed
| > to
| > | > | > DAISIFY commercial books since the changes in copyright law.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Cheers,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > From Ray
| > | > | > I can be contacted off-list at:
| > | > | > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
| > | > | >
| > | > | > -----Original Message-----
| > | > | > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
| > | > | > Behalf
| > | > | > Of Iain Lackie
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Books in the RNIB talking book library are not read by some
bloke
| > they
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > dragged in offf the streets.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Iain
| > | > | >
| > | > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | > From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Ah! but is the RNIB daisy recording of the new HP narrated by
| > Stephen
| > | > | > Frye,
| > | > | > or some bloke they've dragged in off the street as with other of
| > their
| > | > | > 'recordings? :] - Andy
| > | > | >
| > | > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | > From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:28 PM
| > | > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | Roger, I can agree with you about the mark up generally
applied
| > to
| > | > | > | specialist stuff for us, and almost expected by them as of
| > right.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Harry Potter audio version? A bit different, or so I contend.
| > | > | > First
| > | > | > | off Stephen Fry won't be paid peanuts for his commercial
| > recording
| > | > | > of
| > | > | > | it, plus paying for studio time, art work, distribution etc.
| > | > | > Visually
| > | > | > | impaired people are not the only audience either for these
| > books.
| > | > | > OK,
| > | > | > | so this is a popular title that will be bought by many
thousands
| > of
| > | > | > | people, but don't forget that public libraries are a
gaurantteed
| > | > | > | market for audio book producers, and like a good bit of access
| > tech
| > | > | > | sales, the price can be wound up to soak the big buyers at a
| > price
| > | > | > | that couldn't be got otherwise.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Synical though that view just (might) be, these are the
| > realities
| > as
| > | > | > I
| > | > | > | see them. This said, audio books, particularly unabridged
ones,
| > are
| > | > | > | always going to be more exspensive than print versions. The
| > only
| > | > | > way
| > | > | > | this reality can be broken is with the sort of subsidy that
RNIB
| > as
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | charity can bring into play when it sells the small number of
| > | > | > talking
| > | > | > | books that it does. There Roger, as a blind person, is your
| > way
| > | > | > out
| > | > | > | of getting the latest HP at a similar price to your print book
| > | > | > buying
| > | > | > | genral public. Buy a DAISY version of the latest HP from
RNIB.
| > (No
| > | > | > | commission on that sale, unfortunately.) No wonder I've never
| > made
| > | > | > it
| > | > | > | in the big bad world of business!
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Cheers,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | From Ray
| > | > | > | I can be contacted off-list at:
| > | > | > | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | -----Original Message-----
| > | > | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
| > | > | > | Behalf Of roger south
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I do understand the Milestone and the BC have more functions
but
| > not
| > | > | > | as ;;many as costing £200 more. I'm a firm believer in the
| > | > | > | manufacturers see the disabled as a means of making more money
| > with
| > | > | > | the equipment we need. I'm convinced there is a price cartel
| > that
| > | > | > | keeps the price up because then we can't go elsewhere.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | When something like the Zen Stone comes along it emphasises
just
| > | > | > that
| > | > | > | point. Look at the price of audio books. The new Harry Potter
is
| > | > | > | priced I believe at £85. I will be able to buy a print copy a
| > few
| > | > | > days
| > | > | > | after the release on the 21 July for around £8.99 if previous
| > books
| > | > | > | are anything to go by. But for the sake of a few CD's at
around
| > 8
| > | > | > | pence each and the box to put it in we'll say a fiver I have
to
| > pay
| > | > | > | £85. Now if that isn't ripping off the disabled what is. The
| > same
| > is
| > | > | > | true of the players you mentioned but I'm climbing on my
soapbox
| > so
| > | > | > | I'll shut up now.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Roger
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | > | From: Ian Macrae
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Makes you wonder why the milestone is so expensive
comparatively
| > | > | > | dunnit. any views?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
| > On
| > | > | > | Behalf Of roger south
| > | > | > | Sent: 30 May 2007 11:15
| > | > | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I've ordered one of these from Amazon at £27.99 plus p & p
| > totalling
| > | > | > | altogether £30.12. It arrives tomorrow and sounds from the
| > write-ups
| > | > | > | very good. But at that price if it's not what I want I can
give
| > it
| > | > | > | away as a present and not lose any sleep.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Roger
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | > | From: Adrian Higginbotham
| > | > | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:50 AM
| > | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] new accessible mp3 player
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Just read about the upcoming release of a new screenless
audible
| > | > | > | compatible mp3 player, at under £30 for 1gg version. and no
| > | > | > | proprietory software like Itunes, just use it like any USB
| > drive.
| > | > | > | http://accessbrit.wordpress.com/
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Adrian Higginbotham
| > | > | >
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