and while we're questioning the strange behaviours of jfw 7.1 on the burgerking thread I've just experienced another example of buggy behaviour. when reviewing an html table in an email message within outlook where one or more cells of that table contains an html list jfw 7.10.395 when it encounters the list fails to respond to table commands, EG attempting to move to the next or previous cell or row causes jfw to announce "you are not in a table". I tried reading the same data with jfw 6.2 with no problems, and also saving the message as an html file and reviewing with jfw 7.10.395 in MSIE 6 without experiencing the issue. anyone else had this ? Adrian Higginbotham Accessibility and inclusion adviser British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287 Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ