[access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
- From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 07:49:24 +0100
Phil,
Your impression of MAGIC sums up my impression of Freedom Scientific! Oh
if only I could get an Apple Mac with screen magnification, colour
inversion, screen reading, voice activation and of course the main point
of switching to a Mac! no bloody Windows!!!!
Dave
Steve,
Well as you say this is all a bit odd really how the two programs don't
work better together.
I've just downloaded the Magic 11 demo from the FS website, have loaded
it, checked the video intercept drivers are installed however every time
I start magic my laptop does a reboot. I've done it with and without my
Jaws 8 running at the same time and get the same result.
So I have to say I'm not impressed and if this is anything to go by then
it's no wonder that so far only 1 person on this list has admitted to
using or having used Magic in the past.
The program itself looks like it should be good and I like in principle
the Imerge facility to use a camera and have split screen with camera
display & screen magnification however as I can't get past the first
step of getting the program to launch then as I say I'm not impressed.
Thanks anyway for your comments,
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Griffiths, Steve
Sent: 21 May 2008 09:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
Phil,
I think that Freedom Scientific - or maybe it was back in the days of
Henter Joyce - bought MAGic and have been gradually bringing it closer
to JAWS with each release. That's why there may still be
incompatibilities. It's surprising to me, for instance, that you need
MAGic 11 and JAWS 9 if you want the magnification to track the virtual
cursor - something I would have thought was fundamental to a combined
speech and magnification package.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of phil stephenson
Sent: 20 May 2008 22:26
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
Hi Dave,
Great, glad to finally find someone who does use it (smile!).
Yes you would've thought as they're both developed by the same company
that Jaws & Magic would work seamlessly together, I note this is what FS
are claiming is more the case with Jaws 9 and magic 11.
Many thanks,
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ankers, Dave (UK)
Sent: 20 May 2008 17:30
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws & Magic - anyone use them?
Well Phil,
You're wrong! I use it. Before my eyesight deteriorated to the point in
which I required a screen reader, I used to use Dolphin Lunar. and then
Zoomtext. When I was assessed by the RNIB, JAWS and Lunar were
recommended, but Brian Hartgen of T&T Consultancy, soon discovered they
do not work together. So Lunar was switched for Zoomtext, and those
nice people at Dolphin, gave a full refund! However I did have some
problems using JAWS and Zoomtext, so it was switched again to Freedom
Scientifics MAGIC, which works better, but I still believe even though
JAWS and MAGIC are both made by Freedom Scientific, that they still
don't live together as well as one might expect.
Personally I believe FS should fully integrate JAWS and MAGIC into one
product.
HTH
Dave
Me again,
Doing some digging around on speech / magnification options and
wondering if anyone out there is or has ever used Magic from Freedom
Scientific? I'm not planning on using it myself and I'm aware of other
solutions like Zoomtext, Supernova etc but I must confess although I've
heard of Magic I don't think I've ever come across anyone who uses
it....so go on prove me wrong!
Thanks,
Phil
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