Hi, A couple of things struck me both about the sections of Carey's article cited on the programme and the interview conducted with him. - Firstly, he said it was important for RNIB and others to make statements based on evidence which is what he claimed to do, but then immediately lapsed into anecdote and opinion to justify his position. That, to me, is not evidence. I do not necessarily agree with his assertion that visually impaired people are inherently slower at data processing, but even if it were true in some instances, there was no effort to make any scientific link between speed and productivity levels, which in my view is the key. - Secondly, as Paul said, I was stunned by Carey's naivety both in writing the article and in persisting in defending his stance on In Touch. Clearly no-one has told him about the quasi-public role that chairing a prominent NGO entails. It seems strange that the Chair of a campaigning organisation would make statements in his official capacity that, however unintentionally, might put back the cause of that campaigning organisation. Just my two penneth. Ed From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of tony sweeney Sent: 10 March 2010 05:05 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: IN TOUCH TONIGHT - ANY THOUGHTS? Hi again, As a follow-up I would say that if he was in politics then for sure his resignation would be looked for! The mind boggles! Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Hill <mailto:bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:34 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: IN TOUCH TONIGHT - ANY THOUGHTS? My thinking was that, if he wanted to be brutally honest, he could have described the abilities of visually impaired people as a spectrum. However, I can't see a need to be brutally honest. Telling people, no matter how couched the message was in other assertions, that we are slower at tasks seems to be unnecessarily highlighting a flaw before we get the chance to show off our talents as individuals at interview for instance. Cheers Barry _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Leake Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:34 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: IN TOUCH TONIGHT - ANY THOUGHTS? i too only caught part of the prog but my impression is that carey doesn't understand the need to tailor your input to the audience! if you are working with groups of would be employers that's different from speaking at an individual level to a possible employer about how different tasks can be achieved by blind people with differing skills and aptitudes like the sighted community, we are not all the same! in that sense I thought his input was naive and harmful giving a superficial negative impression of what is achievable by blind or visually impaired people! just my initial thoughts richard! Cheers Paul paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Godfrey-McKay <mailto:richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:42 PM Subject: [access-uk] IN TOUCH TONIGHT - ANY THOUGHTS? I'd welcome any views on tonight's "In Touch" - which I haven't yet heard in its entirety, as I tuned in half way through. Richard Richard Godfrey-McKay Telephone: 01738-445 880 Mobile: 07791 452 593 _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2731 - Release Date: 03/08/10 19:33:00 __________ NOD32 4930 (20100309) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com