[access-uk] Re: Goodmans
- From: "LaMcAs" <lamcas17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:23:00 -0000
You will need to re-tune on the 4th April and the 18th April to take full
effect of the Digital Switch-Over.
Larry
London, UK
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 19 March 2012 11:48
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Goodmans
Thanks John. I just recall being told that I need to retune in March but
not sure if I need to wait until the end of the month.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 10:58 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Goodmans
> Hi Eleanor, to retune channels on the Goodmans do the following:
> If you feel the middle section of the remote you'll feel four triangular
> buttons in a cross, with a long button in the middle, which is the ok
> button. If you feel to the left of the up pointing of the triangular
> buttons you'll feel a round button. That's the programme guide button. If
> you press that you can then navigate using the triangle buttons.
> If you feel to the left of the down pointing triangular buttons you'll
> feel another round button. That's the menu button. As with the other one
> you can navigate using the triangular buttons. To retune channels press
> the menu button, arrow down to option 5, technical settings, and press the
> button in the middle of the arrows or triangles. Then arrow to the second
> option, which is retune channels, and press the ok button. You'll get a
> warning that if you retune you'll lose any saved favourites. Press ok
> again and it'll retune the channels.
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 10:07 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Goodmans
>
>
>> How does one update the tuning on the Goodmans Free View Box? How come
>> we never got Braille or CD instructions for its use? I have been away
>> and have forgotten what button does what. Can anyone tell me the layout
>> of the buttons please?
>>
>> Eleanor>>>>
>>>>>> But I do recognise that not being able to access the TVs
>>>>> own menus, including scanning for channels and setting up
>>>>> the TTS independently are drawbacks, as is the inability to
>>>>> access the various web features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a step forward, I don't think we've ever had 30 tVs
>>>>> with TTS onboard released at the same time. It'll be
>>>>> interesting to see if other TV manufacturers take up the
>>>>> challenge.
>>>>>> Yusuf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/03/2012 19:36, martin wilsher wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree with all that has been said here. the thing needs
>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> accessible from the word go, and this isn't. what on
>>>>> earth were the
>>>>>>> RNIB thinking of when giving their blessing to this box?
>>>>> if it is not
>>>>>>> accessible when you turn it on, it's not accessible at
>>>>> all imho.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> *From:* Iain
>>>>> Lackie<mailto:ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> *To:*
>>>>> access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:28 PM
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Panasonic Viera smart TV
>>>>> with Voice
>>>>>>> guidance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a long time now, I have been saying that one of
>>>>> the points which
>>>>>>> impresses me still about the Sonus DAB radio is that
>>>>> it allows
>>>>>>> access to the menu system. The station names may be
>>>>> out of date, but
>>>>>>> I can live with that. Any television which doesn?t
>>>>> allow access by
>>>>>>> voice to the menu system cannot in my view truly be
>>>>> described as
>>>>>>> accessible, especially if you have to gain access to
>>>>> the menu system
>>>>>>> to switch the voice on.
>>>>>>> Iain
>>>>>>> *From:* Barry Hill<mailto:barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:20 PM
>>>>>>> *To:*
>>>>> access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Panasonic Viera smart TV
>>>>> with Voice
>>>>>>> guidance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, did the RNIB say we want this that and the
>>>>> other, for Panasonic
>>>>>>> to simply do what they wanted and use the
>>>>> endoursement of the RNIB
>>>>>>> as a publicity stunt, or did the RNIB fall short of
>>>>> their obligation
>>>>>>> to VI users?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *william lomas
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 18 March 2012 5:53 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Panasonic Viera smart TV
>>>>> with Voice
>>>>>>> guidance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and yet they are supposed to have consulted with
>>>>> RNIB during this
>>>>>>> development cycle?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18 Mar 2012, at 17:13, Gary Robinson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yesterday I had a chance to have a lookat the new
>>>>> Panasonic Viera
>>>>>>> smart TV range which includes voice guidance and
>>>>> audio description
>>>>>>> as mentioned on this list and on Insight radio last
>>>>> month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the plus side, you can choose male/female voice,
>>>>> set voice rate
>>>>>>> and volume. The voice is good, it sounded better
>>>>> than my Goodmans
>>>>>>> Smart talk box and more responsive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IT speaks the channel, programme you are on and
>>>>> works within the
>>>>>>> programme guide, but sadly doesn't work within the
>>>>> various settings
>>>>>>> menus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ironically therefore like audio description on DVDs
>>>>> you probably
>>>>>>> won't be able to turn on the voice guidance without
>>>>> sighted help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sadly therefore and very frustratingly given the
>>>>> sheer amount of
>>>>>>> functionality and connectivity these TVs have
>>>>> (Internet,
>>>>>>> wifi,DLNA,USB,SD etc) most of the functionality will
>>>>> be wasted so
>>>>>>> far as a visually impaired user is concerned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a Viera remote control App for Apple
>>>>> devices, but i don't
>>>>>>> think this will help in providing access to the
>>>>> multiplicity of set
>>>>>>> up menus which controlmost of this very flexible
>>>>> TV's features.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The full price of the 32" model is around £499
>>>>> though it will
>>>>>>> probably be available cheaper if you look around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> whilst Panasonic are probably to be commended on
>>>>> including voice
>>>>>>> guidance as standard across the range, it is
>>>>> nontheless very
>>>>>>> frustrating to be in effect short changed by the
>>>>> limitations of what
>>>>>>> they have provided.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am going to try to speak to someone in panasonic
>>>>> technical
>>>>>>> department and see if there is any way of getting
>>>>> the set up screen
>>>>>>> information output to an external device which might
>>>>> give a way of
>>>>>>> getting more access to these otherwise very
>>>>> impressive TVs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
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