Ah, of course, so you then hear it speak the window again. ... Of course, I've done that myself and it's one of those things you think to do when you're actually doing the job.
Well done! -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxOn Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:56 PM (UK time), Chris Hallsworth at christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:
I just alt tab from and to the window and Narrator usually responds again.So how do you get round it, Chris? -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:10 PM (UK time), Chris Hallsworth at christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx said:No, Andy, I've done it myself on both XP and Vista machines, and I was able to set them up completely with little problems. The problems are usually because Narrator doesn't always track the focus properly but I get round that. In fact, Vista's Narrator is far better in terms of tracking focus.Hi Barbara - The set up screens you mentioned, such as user name, language etc, are the ones that both James and Chris seem to be saying are accessible with Narrator, I hope they can confirm this for me; have you guys actually booted up an XP machine strait out of the box, and got going without any sighted help for those initial set up screens, or are you just thinking it can be done? - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:14 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookSorry Andy, I was confused as to why you were talking about the Asus and Vista as it is XP. That will teach me for jumping into the middle of a conversation! I was able to get sighted help when setting up my Asus and this consisted of things like your name, keyboard language etc, I can't remember exactly what else. I am not sure if bypassing this will have any affect or if you can launch this later. Guess I was lucky in that I could call on sighted help. Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookBarbara - I have been asking if it's possible to get the Asus 901 working witout sighted assistance; it hasn't arrived yet. The replies I have had suggest that Narrator will work imeediately, but I wasn't feeling too confident about that as it didn't on my Vista laptop. I am imagining that there will be certain screens on boot up of the Asus that will be asking for user registration etc, that sighted help will be needed to get past. Chris and James are saying that using ALT N will get me past these screens, and I was queerying this key stroke, as it doesn't do anything on my Vista laptop, but I guess it might under XP on the Asus. Perhaps as you are using one of these netbooks, you can tell me if you managed to get it working without sighted help? Thanks - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookAndy, have I lost the thread but are you using an Asus 901 netbook? Sorry if I missed out a few messages and this is not the case. Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookWell I've just pressed alt N on this Vista laptop, and nothing happened, it issued the tone that says it's an invalid key stroke! - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookIn Vista it launches Narrator, since Windows u actually brings up Ease of Access Centre not Utility Manager. Guess Microsoft wanted consistency though and Windows e is already taken up. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: CH9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookChris, waht does alt N do? Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookWell I can do it without sighted help. Windows U, then alt n. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: CH9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookThis is different to Vista then Chris? With Vista, I couldn't get to Narrator until I'd by-passed a couple of screens with sighted help! - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookNarrator will speak that. Usually you go straight into Windows setup. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: CH9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookChris - Isn't there a screen first that asks for a user name or some log on details? - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbookAndy, you should be able to use Narrator from the word go. As soon as you hear sound or music, press Windows u, and Narrator will load. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: CH9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: [access-uk] Getting started with an XP asus 901 netbook Hi all - Firstly, many thanks to all that help me understand about netbooks, and enabled me to make my choice of the Asus 901. This machine comes preloaded with XP, is it possible to get started on this machine without sighted help? Can anybody tell me which screens come up first,and how to get past them to the point where I can make use ofNarrator? 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