[access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?
- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:50:31 +0100
Good for you Eleanor, it's rare, (smile).
Kind Regards,
J
Jackie Cairns
jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 06 June 2010 12:41
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?
I found Freedom more than helpful Jackie when I approached them directly.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:55 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?
> My big issue with them is that they don't appear to care about customers.
> They invest thousands of dollars at the expense of visually impaired
> people
> in taking out law suits against the opposition, and they come over as
> being
> completely paranoid about their licensing policies. There is no doubt
> that
> those of us who have invested so much time and money in JAWS need that
> software to enhance our independence. But I don't like the FS ethos and
> apparent gravy train, and I do believe that alternatives such as Voiceover
> for the Mac, NVDA, Window-Eyes and System Access are beginning to
> thankfully
> make an impact.
>
> Whether there is any truth in the persistent rumours about Freedom will
> always be nothing but rumour until anything substantive materialises.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> J
>
>
> Jackie Cairns
> jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Barry G
> Sent: 06 June 2010 11:42
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?
>
> I must say too, a number of people are switching to the competition
> because
> Freedom seems to be focussing on things like research-it that does what
> you
> can do perfectly easily using a search engine on the web whilst appearing
> to
> have left simple things like support in Windows 7 for word-processor and
> email to one side. It seems to me like frills over basic functionality,
> which looks to me to be taking your eyes off the ball big time...
>
> All the best from a continuing JFW user regardless but in hope, Barry G
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 3:36 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?
>
>
>> Yes JAWS does need to be updated regularly to keep up, but as so many
>> people are having to cover the cost of the upgrades out of their own
>> pocket there is a likelyhood many of them won't be able to afford to
>> upgrade each time. How often do we ear of users using versions much lower
>> than the current version. I am guessing that government departments will
>> probably be the biggest purchaser of JAWS and most of them won't upgrade
>> unless they really need to due to the limits on government spending at
>> the
>
>> moment in most countries.
>>
>> I've always felt that lowering the price significantly for JAWS would in
>> fact bring in much more revenue for Freedom Scientific because so many
>> people are switching to the rapidly improving competition at a fraction
>> of
>
>> the cost.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Neil" <temp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:37 AM
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: End of Freedom?
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Some points: Well really one main point, where did the information come
>>> from?
>>> This isnt referenced anywhere in the statement and I cant find anything
>>> on the web.
>>>
>>> Surely Freedoms hardware business would be more likely to be sold as it
>>> cannot be anywhere near as profitable due to the vast amount of
>>> competition in that area.
>>>
>>> Supposing that this does turn out to be true I am sure that a buyer
>>> would
>
>>> be found easily. Is Jaws not the most used screen reader worldwide?
>>> Jaws needs constant updates to keep up with the rapidly moving
>>> technology
>
>>> that is computer software and so a constant revenue stream already
>>> exists
>
>>> making it a viable business long term.
>>> Undoubtedly there are huge costs envolved in developing the software for
>>> the same reason but as the financial situation has been going on for
>>> around 2 years now would we have seen features like Tandem and Research
>>> It if profitability was becoming a concern?
>>>
>>> At this point I think that without more specific and robust information
>>> we should not be concerned.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "Otto Zamora"<donttreadonme@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400
>>>>
>>>> Morning,
>>>>
>>>> In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference Freedom
>>>> Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw.
>>>> Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on a flag
>>>> by
>
>>>> an
>>>> analyst.
>>>> Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising given
>>>> the
>>>> economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off some of
>>>> their
>>>> division, mainly their JFW area.
>>>> I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that
>>>> there
>>>> is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700.
>>>> Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get the
>>>> package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully accessible
>>>> web
>>>> sites, word processing, and E mail.
>>>> all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as individual
>>>> program.
>>>> ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool
>>>> indeed
>>>> for the kind of money they are asking for.
>>>> Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling
>>>> computers
>>>> already with speech on board right out of the box and off the shelf.
>>>> Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that might
>>>> very
>>>> well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program.
>>>> Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of JFW,
>>>> will
>>>> only work for a short while until the programs controlling the OS,
>>>> begins to
>>>> outgrow the application.
>>>> In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to me,
>>>> was
>>>> the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by Mr.. Mike
>>>> Calvo,
>>>> is very short.
>>>> The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want
>>>> without
>>>> real loss.
>>>
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